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Matrix



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Hi guys whats up?

Long time since i migrated to linux, no more windows, never.

using C, bash, and coreutils at regular basis, learning Haskell now as the highest level language that is purely functional, can we say FASM ans GHC are the exact opposites?

FASM - small size - very close to hardware
GHC - HUGE, and LARGE code overhead - purely functional

Somewhat missing ASM's small size, and outstanding computation performance, and gcc's inline asm is not so cool.

Greets Tomasz
Post 02 Nov 2011, 21:09
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emc



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Matrix wrote:
can we say FASM ans GHC are the exact opposites?

GHC and fasm, yes. But Haskell and Asm, no Very Happy

Haskell is a very abstract language (it's inspired by very abstract mathematical concepts, like category theory)
Assembly is a concrete language.

However, I think that Haskell and Assembly have two things in common: 1) the thinking paradigm in both languages are sharply different from mainstream languages; and this is cool. 2) both languages are great!
Haskell and Asm are the greatest languages for me.
Post 02 Nov 2011, 21:43
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Reloaded!

Well at least it in not "revolutions". Razz

Welcome back Matrix.
Post 03 Nov 2011, 14:31
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Matrix



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Thanks revolution

are you on linux too? Wink
Just committed a very common question
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Matrix wrote:
are you on linux too?
Nope. Can't help you. Linux freezes on my systems whenever I try it. I've no time to diagnose the problem. Also a lot of the commercial software I use does not have a Linux version so I'm not particularly enthusiastic about Linux at the moment.
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sleepsleep
hi matrix,
what specific distro you are using atm?
Post 04 Nov 2011, 11:41
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sleepsleep wrote:
hi matrix,
what specific distro you are using atm?

hey
currently its a 64 bit Scientific linux 6 (customized)
it is based on RHEL 6

But i'll be upgrading, why should i have 10GB+ software i never use.
Post 04 Nov 2011, 15:59
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revolution wrote:
Matrix wrote:
are you on linux too?
Nope. Can't help you. Linux freezes on my systems whenever I try it. I've no time to diagnose the problem. Also a lot of the commercial software I use does not have a Linux version so I'm not particularly enthusiastic about Linux at the moment.


sorry to hear that, was having similar problems 3 years ago, ubuntu, mandriva, mandrake, fedora all failed my requirements about reliability.
Anyway i'd recommend you to use an ATI video card,
NO NVIDIA, NEVER Smile (-they do not give out driver sources.)

btw.: i first tried a linux that was named "SuSe" in 2002, now that was totally useless for me, and it was sold for money, i still have its 50000 page manuals.
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sleepsleep
i tried linux, but in the end, i think,

i only preffer debian & slax linux.
and preffer those bsd... open, free, & net.
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Matrix wrote:
i'd recommend you to use an ATI video card,
NO NVIDIA, NEVER Smile (-they do not give out driver sources.)

Under FreeBSD, the closed-source NVIDIA "binary blob" is the best. I believe the ATI is okay mostly for older cards, and most of the rest (OOS, based on GNU/Linux drivers) are not so good unfortunately.
The GPU industry is not transparent at all and when you have to choose between stability and having the source...
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Intel drivers are coming along:
http://www.intellinuxgraphics.org/
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=home keeps an eye on them
http://dodonov.net/blog/ semi-weekly updates on Intel integrated graphics.

I've heard there are differences in orders of magnitude between ATI's and nVidia's drivers implementation of their own hardware. Sad
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