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sleepsleep



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sleepsleep
we need expert, geek, nerd, scientist, every human ideas.

it is not about money anymore,
it is about how we gonna build our future, everybody future.

how to make everybody having a sufficient, sustainable life,

how to have a fair, transparent law, system,

how to enlighten others into bigger view so they see the problems and work together for solutions.

it is about fight & challenge to design the best system.

the reward is running your system for another thousand years and benefit every humankind.

it is about not hurting others and keep everybody content.
Post 09 Oct 2011, 12:34
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typedef



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how long are you going to talk about this ?

Don't get disappointed if it doesn't go your way. Wink
Post 09 Oct 2011, 17:54
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Stephen



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Fair, sufficient, sustainable, transparent, enlightened Smile
It's all subjective. One person's utopia is anthers hell.

Just do what you think is right. Do what you have time and ability to do. Make the world a tiny bit better. Every one else will do what ever they do. You don't have the power to force or control them. If some one harms some one, you do not have the power to make it right or fix it, you can not make it not have happened. All you can do is live your life as right as you can.
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YONG



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sleepsleep wrote:
it is not about money anymore ...
You are right, sleepsleep. That is why you should immediately transfer all your savings to my PayPal account! Wink

sleepsleep wrote:
how to enlighten others into bigger view so they see the problems
One of the biggest problems is that many people still wrongly believe the existence of gods. We should try our best to free them from religious entanglement. Wink
Post 10 Oct 2011, 07:06
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Coty



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sleepsleep wrote:

how to make everybody having a sufficient, sustainable life,

Move out in the woods, build a house from dirt and trees, start a garden. There you go Wink

sleepsleep wrote:
how to have a fair, transparent law, system,

The best law system is the one made by your emotions.

sleepsleep wrote:
how to enlighten others into bigger view so they see the problems and work together for solutions.

Enlighten how? your way? my way? billy joes way? hell, we all think where the enlightened.

sleepsleep wrote:
it is about fight & challenge to design the best system.

The best system is no system.

sleepsleep wrote:
the reward is running your system for another thousand years and benefit every humankind.

DOWN WITH THE SYSTEM MAAAAAN!
Post 10 Oct 2011, 13:11
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AsmGuru62



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An impressive tale about the better future:

http://docs7.chomikuj.pl/363223629,0,0,Yefremov-Ivan---Andromeda-Nebula.pdf

Very cool stuff!
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sleepsleep
typedef wrote:

how long are you going to talk about this ?
Don't get disappointed if it doesn't go your way.

as long as am alive? maybe and hopefully.

YONG wrote:

You are right, sleepsleep. That is why you should immediately transfer all your savings to my PayPal account!

you are right, and i think, i invited you to come to my country already,
i can provide you place to stay (i bought a house already), eat what i eat, and we can do something here together.

YONG wrote:

One of the biggest problems is that many people still wrongly believe the existence of gods. We should try our best to free them from religious entanglement.

agree...and i hope and wish every slave can go out of religion and all its bullshit.

Stephen wrote:

Move out in the woods, build a house from dirt and trees, start a garden. There you go

planning and on going, hope to reach self-sustain.
diy electricity, diy water filtering, diy radio, diy connectivity, diy food and more.

Stephen wrote:

Enlighten how? your way? my way? billy joes way? hell, we all think where the enlightened.

thats why the need to collaborate,

Stephen wrote:

The best system is no system.

no system is just one kind of the system.

AsmGuru62 wrote:

An impressive tale about the better future:

http://docs7.chomikuj.pl/363223629,0,0,Yefremov-Ivan---Andromeda-Nebula.pdf

Very cool stuff!

downloading, will read it later, thanks!
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Coty



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sleepsleep wrote:
Stephen wrote:

Move out in the woods, build a house from dirt and trees, start a garden. There you go

planning and on going, hope to reach self-sustain.
diy electricity, diy water filtering, diy radio, diy connectivity, diy food and more.

If you do, tell me how it goes, (Amusing you have computer/internet), It's something I've thought about doing something like it... DIY electricity is where I've been stuck, designing a way to produce enough power to run a light, run a electric cooler and or charge my netbook, is the tough part. I've thought about a kind of diesel engine, that runs off of greases from plants and animals, in theory it's the best way and easier that steam...
Post 10 Oct 2011, 20:35
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AsmGuru62



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So, ya'll think "the Government is out to get us"!?
Seriously... wow!..
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Coty



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No, I simply do not like how our goverment(s) are.
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bitshifter



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The government (and everybody else) needs to stop rewarding
people for making/spending money.
They should reward someone for being a good person and helping others.
We will never fix a system where money is the most important thing.

Ex: Start a garden, share your vegetables with your neighbors,
see that it brought you together for dinner, no money involved.
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bitRAKE



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Look at how many laws exist. Really? We need all that to know what right and wrong is? You'd think we could consolidate to maybe a single simple list - no, not the ten commandments!

bitshifter wrote:
The government (and everybody else) needs to stop rewarding people for making/spending money.
Bankers, lol.
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YONG



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sleepsleep wrote:
you [YONG] are right, and i think, i invited you to come to my country already,i can provide you place to stay, eat what i eat, and we can do something here together.
Oh no! sleepsleep, I do not mean to hurt your feelings, but ... I am straight! You should invite revolution instead! Laughing Wink
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sleepsleep
Coty wrote:

If you do, tell me how it goes, (Amusing you have computer/internet), It's something I've thought about doing something like it... DIY electricity is where I've been stuck, designing a way to produce enough power to run a light, run a electric cooler and or charge my netbook, is the tough part. I've thought about a kind of diesel engine, that runs off of greases from plants and animals, in theory it's the best way and easier that steam...


on going, plan to buy a plot of land for such purpose.....
cost around 65K for a small damn plot, damn it.

i believe everything is energy and there should be a simple method, to convert from one point to another point using sun light, water, sound wave or etc, there should be something simple.

bitshifter wrote:

The government (and everybody else) needs to stop rewarding
people for making/spending money.
They should reward someone for being a good person and helping others.
We will never fix a system where money is the most important thing.

Ex: Start a garden, share your vegetables with your neighbors,
see that it brought you together for dinner, no money involved.

i share the same feeling like urs...
this whole system is a mess and just won't sustain for long term, our future require us to think and do something today.

bitRAKE wrote:

Look at how many laws exist. Really? We need all that to know what right and wrong is? You'd think we could consolidate to maybe a single simple list - no, not the ten commandments!

don't hurt others and don't let others hurt you.

YONG wrote:

Oh no! sleepsleep, I do not mean to hurt your feelings, but ... I am straight! You should invite revolution instead!

well, YONG, there are lots of beautiful babes here, ^^ Smile
revolution? i don't think so, he is old uncle... hahahak.
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