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typedef



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typedef
I find Google Chrome faster than FireBitch and so I have switched to Chrome.
Post 06 Sep 2011, 06:25
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bitRAKE



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Chrome has always been less invasive on the screen space. While also remaining accessible. Have tried the newest browsers though.
Post 06 Sep 2011, 16:55
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Madis731



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Firefox/Seamonkey have caret browsing and typeahead find. Until one of the better browsers implement it, I will stick to my Seamonkey 2.

Chrome won't access links when they are found by searching (F3) and Enter is pressed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caret_navigation
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/cpecbmjeidppdiampimghndkikcmoadk
Post 06 Sep 2011, 17:16
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Coty



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Coty
Welcome, to the shiny side.
Post 06 Sep 2011, 19:33
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xleelz



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I've tried quite a few browsers, and I think Opera is faster than Google Chrome/Chromium
Post 11 Sep 2011, 01:24
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TmX



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TmX
Hmm I just tried this:
http://v8.googlecode.com/svn/data/benchmarks/v6/run.html

Chrome 13.0.782.220 m
Quote:
Score: 5440
Richards: 7823
DeltaBlue: 8258
Crypto: 9912
RayTrace: 7048
EarleyBoyer: 13961
RegExp: 1463
Splay: 1530


Opera 11.51
Quote:
Score: 2527
Richards: 2332
DeltaBlue: 1795
Crypto: 2741
RayTrace: 3268
EarleyBoyer: 3230
RegExp: 1124
Splay: 4836


It's has been my impression that Chrome has the fastest JS engine, which contributes significantly to the browsing speed (considering JS is very common these days).
Post 11 Sep 2011, 13:56
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Overflowz



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TmX
did you noticed that site is on google's domain ? Laughing They're cheating!
IE9:
Code:
Score: 2297
Richards: 2249
DeltaBlue: 2138
Crypto: 3763
RayTrace: 1602
EarleyBoyer: 3289
RegExp: 1909
Splay: 1856    

Opera:
Code:
Score: 3292
Richards: 3075
DeltaBlue: 2358
Crypto: 3604
RayTrace: 4091
EarleyBoyer: 4048
RegExp: 1413
Splay: 6848    

Chrome:
Code:
Score: 8173
Richards: 11417
DeltaBlue: 14711
Crypto: 13860
RayTrace: 9498
EarleyBoyer: 19037
RegExp: 1862
Splay: 3108    


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Post 11 Sep 2011, 14:01
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TmX



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TmX
Yeah I noticed that. Well who knows? Laughing
Post 11 Sep 2011, 14:03
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Coty



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Coty
I skimmed it's code real fast and it looks fine.

On my netbook:

Opera
Code:
Score: 940
 Richards: 916
DeltaBlue: 588
Crypto: 1085
RayTrace: 1084
EarleyBoyer: 1192
RegExp: 431
Splay: 1997
    


Google Chrome:
Code:
Score: 1937
Richards: 2443
DeltaBlue: 3041
Crypto: 2653
RayTrace: 1702
EarleyBoyer: 4445
RegExp: 614
Splay: 1116
    


Firefox (After it crashed once)
Code:
Score: 878
Richards: 1832
DeltaBlue: 958
Crypto: 1605
RayTrace: 766
EarleyBoyer: 997
RegExp: 241
Splay: 780
    


I can barely tell the difference when browsing with either on my desktop (2.5Ghz x2) But on my netbook (1.66Ghz single core) I can tell a quite noticeable difference.
Post 12 Sep 2011, 12:21
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DOS386



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> I can barely tell the difference when browsing with either on my
> desktop (2.5Ghz x2) But on my netbook (1.66Ghz single core)
> I can tell a quite noticeable difference.

Consider a PC with 8086 CPU 5 MHz , 640 KiB RAM and Arachne or DOSLynx Smile
Post 12 Sep 2011, 13:22
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Enko



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DOS386 wrote:

Consider a PC with 8086 CPU 5 MHz , 640 KiB RAM and Arachne or DOSLynx Smile

I think its time that you upgrade your hardware Laughing
Post 12 Sep 2011, 13:52
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typedef



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typedef
Ok, I'm sorry FireFox I ditched you but it seems like Google Chrome's download system sucks booty. I can't download a 200 MB file because it keeps breaking the file up. It (Chrome) will download about 2 MB and then stop. What the fuck ? And I was just downloading a 2.2 GiB file and it says it's done. But wait, it only downloaded 1 Gib... and opening the file, there's only a Readme.txt with 5 lines of text.

FireFox rocks ! Fck Chrome ! Rolling Eyes

PS: Here's someone with the same problem.
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Chrome/thread?tid=4655659c66a4eaf9&hl=en
Post 13 Sep 2011, 19:45
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Opera is better Wink Non OpenSource = More Secure, faster, best interface, my favourite option - editing web pages from source (just testing forms.), download+view movies and so on. I prefer Opera. Very Happy
Post 13 Sep 2011, 21:57
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Overflowz wrote:
Opera is better Wink Non OpenSource = More Secure, faster, best interface, my favourite option - editing web pages from source (just testing forms.), download+view movies and so on. I prefer Opera. Very Happy


I used it only once. How's the current version's download feature like? Is it good?
Post 14 Sep 2011, 02:52
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Oh yes quite, it even supports downloading torrents out of the box Very Happy
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typedef



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typedef
Coty wrote:
Oh yes quite, it even supports downloading torrents out of the box Very Happy


Sweet.
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Overflowz wrote:
Opera is better Wink Non OpenSource = More Secure, faster, best interface, my favourite option - editing web pages from source (just testing forms.), download+view movies and so on. I prefer Opera. Very Happy

While I agree generally on the qualities of Opera and use it for more than a decade now (it's actually the only closed-source software I use), I really don't understand your equation.
Although bugs and vulnerabilities may hide in FOSS for a long time, it's obviously easier for thousands or more developers around the world to check the source (like security experts who do that as their everyday job) than to disassemble/debug the binary or wait that the dozens/hundreds of company developers fix bugs/vulnerabilities if they ever find them.
It all depends on the objectives of the group/community/company and the way the development process is managed.

The last people who argued about security through obscurity with a straight face (at least I think so) were those executives at Microsoft.
Post 14 Sep 2011, 07:35
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Overflowz



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ManOfSteel
I said, opera's developers are good programmers too! from start to end, there is only few vulnerabilities on opera. It's hard to find vulnerability on non-open source software Very Happy (My thoughs only.)
Forgive me if I'm wrong.
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revolution
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Overflowz wrote:
It's hard to find vulnerability on non-open source software Very Happy (My thoughs only.)
It is not about measuring the difficulty of finding vulnerabilities. It is about the desirability of finding them.

Let's say ObscureOS is open source and has many many glaring vulnerabilities just waiting to be exploited if anyone cares to look. But because of the obscurity of the OS, no one even bothers to look because the potential range of systems to be exploited is too small to attract any attention.

Compare that to PopularOS, closed source, with, say, only one vulnerability. Since PopularOS is used in six billion systems we will likely find that there are many many people looking to find a vulnerability. Chances are eventually someone will find it and suddenly it is game over.

It is all about motivation, not difficulty.

[edit to add] Replace OS with Browser and everything still applies. Actually replace OS with PieceOfComputerCode and everything still applies.


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Overflowz



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revolution
I get it, thanks.
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