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AsmGuru62



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These last questions: they sound like a way to a dictatorship.
Post 30 Oct 2012, 05:26
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sleepsleep wrote:
masonswanson wrote:
Drill As Much Information Into Our Offspring's Heads As Possible And Only Let Them Be Around Kids Who Are Good Enough For Them, And None Whom Are Unfit For Reproduction (Ugly Stupid Or Weak)


i agree with you, but what is the solution for those ugly, stupid, weak, unfit people and their children.

and what is the percentage of this group in our current 7 billion population.

and how is it to define what group does a person belong?
Ouch. That is very disturbing. I sure hope these things never come to pass. Confused
AsmGuru62 wrote:
These last questions: they sound like a way to a dictatorship.
Eugenics is a very scary thing IMO.
Post 30 Oct 2012, 05:45
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revolution wrote:
Ouch. That is very disturbing. I sure hope these things never come to pass. Confused


It already happened.

masonswanson wrote:
Drill As Much Information Into Our Offspring's Heads As Possible And Only Let Them Be Around Kids Who Are Good Enough For Them, And None Whom Are Unfit For Reproduction (Ugly Stupid Or Weak)


Or Drill As Much Information Into Our Offspring's Heads As Possible And Eliminate Individuals Who Are To Stupid To Think And Must Follow Some Leader Who Is Chosen According To Their Weak Fear?

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Post 30 Oct 2012, 06:22
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malpolud wrote:

Or Drill As Much Information Into Our Offspring's Heads As Possible And Eliminate Individuals Who Are To Stupid To Think And Must Follow Some Leader Who Is Chosen According To Their Weak Fear?


i read from newspaper, there got a question regarding loyalty and responsibility.

does loyalty in group ( government, business, politic party ) skip people from holding responsibilities towards whatever policies they created?

(i think it is one of the questions to enter harvard university)
Post 30 Oct 2012, 14:03
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sleepsleep wrote:
does loyalty in group ( government, business, politic party ) skip people from holding responsibilities towards whatever policies they created?
Loyalty is a basement rule and a necessary condition of prosperous existence of every human group, IMO.
Post 30 Oct 2012, 14:57
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MHajduk wrote:

Loyalty is a basement rule and a necessary condition of prosperous existence of every human group, IMO.


well, how is it loyalty different from faith? ( like religion faith )
i was kinda pondering about this since i heard about the question.

then people try to divide loyalty to blind loyal and questioning loyal,

but when you start question, it means we got doubt,

does loyalty allows doubt?

idk, coz imo, it sounds like faith.
Post 30 Oct 2012, 17:00
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sleepsleep wrote:
does loyalty allows doubt?

idk, coz imo, it sounds like faith.
Well, I think that you may have doubts but still be loyal, having understood that lack of loyalty causes a mess and group disintegration.
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MHajduk wrote:

Well, I think that you may have doubts but still be loyal, having understood that lack of loyalty causes a mess and group disintegration.

maybe we need to redefine what is loyalty?

do we need to remain loyal if the system/organization/etc no longer serves our best interest?

why we need to remain loyal even if there are better options?

if the system saves 1000 people so far, then kill another 1000 people, do we still need to remain loyal?

how to measure when should we betray? and how to measure when to loyal?

idk,

but i think lack of loyalty doesn't necessary cause mess.
Post 30 Oct 2012, 17:44
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Take China as an example, despite of the fact that sometimes Chinamen have been somehow forced to be loyal to the government it eventually resulted positively in improbable growth of power of the nation & state.

At least I see it this way, correct me if I'm wrong.
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sleepsleep
what i see from china trip, (what below might be what this world currently face, not only to china)

well,
a lot,

one of the 'feeling' i got from china trip is, they are ready, and they want to change,

and what i saw is, they lack a new culture, new code of conduct, new moral, new lifestyle, new system

they want to become the leader in civilization, but they lack a system that could bring them into that ideal.

idk what is loyal,
following an order, rule, system only makes us a follower,
loyal is more than following, and imo, it is follow without questioning,

enemies exists because different interest, conflict,

conflict means follower need to choose which one serve them better, or who can control the media and brainwash the people, like the president debate live on tv.

does having sex with another lady even if you are married means you betray your wife?

idk,


i mean, this is really great question to ponder, it just blow people head,
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vid wrote:
We should start studying mistakes of our predecessors so that we don't repeat them


Right.

typedef wrote:
Adapt the survival of the fittest theory


IIRC some Mr. Adolf Hitler had already tried this "technology" cca 70 years ago. Conclusion: typedef didn't study mistakes of our predecessors.

PS: someone (masonswanson) bumped an over 1 year old post Sad

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here is a concept of a good way of education/experiment.. but im genious so i am likely right there.


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Obviously with an artificial language specifically designed, its much easier to write text data mining algorithms ala watson (just likely less powerhungry), so all the scientists can easily be cooperated.
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