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Mike Gonta



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aeBIOS is a project that tries to make all the broken ugly mess from the 1970's "real mode BIOS" available in protected mode,
so it's easy to make broken and ugly protected mode software (rather than broken and ugly real mode software)... Smile

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Post 17 May 2011, 22:53
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Dex4u



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Dex4u
Mike Gonta wrote:
aeBIOS is a project that tries to make all the broken ugly mess from the 1970's "real mode BIOS" available in protected mode,
so it's easy to make broken and ugly protected mode software (rather than broken and ugly real mode software)... Smile


That's funny from someone thats rewritten his OS 20 times, that means at least 19 of them must of been broken ugly mess.
Unless theres more than one Brendan on the osdev forum.
Post 17 May 2011, 23:56
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BOTOKILLER



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hm.... nice idea!
Post 18 May 2011, 15:58
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Mike Gonta



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BOTOKILLER wrote:
hm.... nice idea!

Hi BOTOKILLER,
I think so.
By the way, Mr. Trotter is 100% correct in his description (I don't like the BIOS either, but for a beginner
- that's me by the way - it's the best we have).
I'm happy that a knowledgeable OS developer such as Mr. Trotter has recognized my project.
aeBIOS makes it just as easy(?) to program a PM32 hobby OS as RM16.
aeBIOS takes care of the dirty work (A20, mode switch, PIC, GDT, IDT) and makes access to the native
motherboard BIOS simple.

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Post 18 May 2011, 20:09
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BAiC



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Dex4u wrote:
That's funny from someone thats rewritten his OS 20 times, that means at least 19 of them must of been broken ugly mess.

A willingness to change your work should not be construed as a declaration against your original code. methods and implementations change. This is software we're talking about. improvement requires change, but change doesn't necessarily infer improvement.
Post 19 May 2011, 00:36
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BAiC wrote:
Dex4u wrote:
That's funny from someone thats rewritten his OS 20 times, that means at least 19 of them must of been broken ugly mess.

A willingness to change your work should not be construed as a declaration against your original code. methods and implementations change. This is software we're talking about. improvement requires change, but change doesn't necessarily infer improvement.


I disagree, good design or code evolves, the linux kernel evolved, the 911 porsche car evolved etc.
The BIOS has done a great job up to now, it does it job.
Do not be taken in by people that can write pages of flowing words, judge things on, does it work and is it usable.
Post 19 May 2011, 15:49
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Dex4u wrote:
BAiC wrote:
Dex4u wrote:
That's funny from someone thats rewritten his OS 20 times, that means at least 19 of them must of been broken ugly mess.

A willingness to change your work should not be construed as a declaration against your original code. methods and implementations change. This is software we're talking about. improvement requires change, but change doesn't necessarily infer improvement.


I disagree, good design or code evolves, the linux kernel evolved, the 911 porsche car evolved etc.
The BIOS has done a great job up to now, it does it job.
Do not be taken in by people that can write pages of flowing words, judge things on, does it work and is it usable.

You are right, but the BIOS that we have now on our computers are crowded with compatibility stuff, which nobody uses now i.e. old unused interrupts for readin 5 inch floppys, magnetic tapes and all stuff that is history now. So, there must be some updates at last....

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Post 19 May 2011, 16:20
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Enko



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I know this is not what the thread is about.

But, did you notice? Every time, the bios setup options are less, less, and more less....

the asus board I purchased in 2002 had lots of options. The asus board i purchased in 2004 had a litle bit less options, but still quit similar.
The intel board i purchased in 2007 (I hate that bitch) had same options, but very less details of information.

and the acer board of my actual notebook, I can change only the time, date, and the boot order.......
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