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MHajduk



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JohnFound wrote:
The dinosaurs ruled the world a lot longer than humans. Where are they now?
Some of them evolved into birds (it's not a joke), so they are still among us. Wink
Post 18 Mar 2011, 14:01
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I wonder into what will evolve the Homo-sapience after some 500km asteroid hit the Earth?
Or probably we could change its orbit, using some magic combination of wind mills, solar panels and ozone friendly deodorants. Twisted Evil Laughing
Post 18 Mar 2011, 14:20
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edfed



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life is not only happyness or comfort.

and be sure of one thing, in 150 years, every humans here will be dead, letting the world for next generations.

the future is not something like spaceships with cool uniforms, we are not in starteck.

life is more like... continuous birth/death cycle.
with your body eaten by worms.
worms eaten by brids (evolution of dinosaurs), birds eaten by predators, predators eaten by worms, etc, etc... and plants over this cycle, eating the gaz we emit (CO2), eating the minerals we leave we we are dead...

the life cycle, and hopefully, we are not the best evolution state of humanity, just a step before the step before the step etc... before the perfect evolution, but perfect evolution cannot exists, as there are no perfect environmental conditions, just we are what the world forced us to be.

and if humanity disapear, life will not.
many millions years after apocalypse, there can be a new human age, because similar condition will maybe give the opportunity to a mouse to evolve and return to human state.
Post 18 Mar 2011, 14:21
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JohnFound



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continuous birth/death cycle.


It only looks like this. The time is not cyclic and there is no reversible processes in the universe.
The space flights are not matter of "cool uniforms" or other SF cliches. As I already said: In long therm, there are exactly two variants:

1. The live on Earth disappears.
2. The mankind spreads in the universe (and maybe survives).

Space flights are matter of live and dead.
Yes, maybe some other live exists somewhere else in the universe, but it is not interesting for me. I am human race jingo and want human race to rule, at least, the galaxy - let say after years.
Post 18 Mar 2011, 14:33
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MHajduk



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JohnFound wrote:
I wonder into what will evolve the Homo-sapience after some 500km asteroid hit the Earth?
Peter Ward said in the one of his books that the appearance of the human race was the worst "asteroid" that hit the Earth in its whole history. Wink
JohnFound wrote:
Or probably we could change its orbit, using some magic combination of wind mills, solar panels and ozone friendly deodorants. Twisted Evil Laughing
Your "missiles" went into the wrong direction - I'm not against the nuclear energy in general. Razz
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MHajduk: You was not the target. Wink It was just rhetorical appeal toward "ecologically educated" people. Twisted Evil
BTW: Namely the quake in Japan illustrates that the "mother nature" is not ally for the humans.
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MHajduk



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JohnFound wrote:
BTW: Namely the quake in Japan illustrates that the "mother nature" is not ally for the humans.
Sure, Nature isn't our ally but we have to become its most devoted followers in order to take advantages of what it may offer us. The best way to reach this goal is to develop our science in all possible directions according to the positivistic program of David Hilbert: "We must know, we will know." ("Wir müssen wissen. Wir werden wissen."). Wink

Different natural conditions determine different solutions for energy sourcing. Solar updraft towers might be a good idea for such places as Australia due to low tectonic activity but it wouldn't be a good idea for Japan, for sure.
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ManOfSteel



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JohnFound wrote:

Namely the quake in Japan illustrates that the "mother nature" is not ally for the humans.
[...]
And what the "eco-mankind" will do on the next big asteroid, next supernova exploded near us, next infection that can not be cured?
[...]
I wonder into what will evolve the Homo-sapience after some 500km asteroid hit the Earth?
Or probably we could change its orbit, using some magic combination of wind mills, solar panels and ozone friendly deodorants.
[...]
Space flights are matter of live and dead. [...] I am human race jingo and want human race to rule, at least, the galaxy - let say after years.


  • The randomness of nature is what "gave birth to life". Just as this can "give life", this can "take it" too. That's right, Mother Nature is a crazy negligent biatch we must keep an eye on LOL.
  • We must conquer space.
  • Human jingoism is as empty as nationalism and fundamentalism. The human race in its present organic form is bound to fail and can't survive on Earth (or its solar system or galaxy) indefinitely and is most likely incapable of adapting and surviving in space, or constant low gravity, or radically different environments, etc.
  • We must continue and accelerate the development of robots. The useful ones, not those that only look cute, smash each others inside arenas or replace luxury hookers.
  • We must become cyborgs and conquer space in that form, with the help of armies of robots that we can directly control. This also solves all inherently-human problems and saves us from disease, death and extinction.
  • Nuclear weapons are okay.
  • Nuclear power plants are okay too, as long as they're built in naturally- and humanly-stable areas.
  • A 500 kms asteroid is an awesome opportunity to test the destructive potential of future molecular nanotechnology.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1367684/Nuclear-plant-chief-weeps-Japanese-finally-admit-radiation-leak-kill-people.html

The moment nuclear plant chief WEPT as Japanese finally admit that radiation leak is serious enough to kill people
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edfed



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i will be the first human to transplant his mind in a machine.


and i'll kill a lot of people.
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MHajduk wrote:
Sure, Nature isn't our ally but we have to become its most devoted followers in order to take advantages of what it may offer us.
Completely agree. Nature has solved problems of questions we have yet to ask.

Is there an animal which evolved the ability to predict earthquakes? Doesn't seem likely - maybe a sea turtle?

Free energy. Laughing
http://www.element-14.com/community/videos/2006

Summary of reactor news (humor):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sakN2hSVxA&

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MHajduk



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bitRAKE wrote:
Is there an animal which evolved the ability to predict earthquakes? Doesn't seem likely - maybe a sea turtle?
Elephants can communicate via seismic waves, so maybe they are the best candidates? Wink
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birds and flying animals are the most protected from earthquakes and tsunamis.
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Breaking: Grey [Gray] smoke found from No.3 nuclear reactor

http://www3.nhk.or.jp/daily/english/21_25.html

Confused
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Japan's nuclear safety agency says it is highly likely that radioactive materials are leaking from part of the Number 3 reactor of the troubled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant.
Sigh! Confused
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sleepsleep
it is getting worse and worse daily,
USGS japan map shows up almost full rect box.... red, blue, yellow
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http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Maps/10/140_40.php
"147 earthquakes on this map"

Wow, so many that navigating their maps becomes difficult.
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YONG



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Here in Hong Kong, tiny traces of radioactive iodine have been detected in the air these few days. Sigh! Sad
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edfed



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i a near future, japan should develop floatting/flying buildings, if they don't want to disapear like atlantide, they will be forced to leave their land ,and find a cournty were nobody will say they are invaders.
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