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sleepsleep
well, looking at the picture i attached,,,

i saw a old lady

and i saw a young lady

but i couldn't perceived both at the same time

i mean, if u combine the view of old and young lady, what is that?

?? is this our brain limit?

could there be human whom can perceived both at the same time, as if he got 2 conscious? 2 in one? or more in 1??

and is there any (link, experiment, or ideas) to grow another conscious inside our current conscious?


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sleepsleep
are those lunatic inside asylum that could "self-talking" actually got 2 conscious inside them? hmmmm....
Post 20 Nov 2010, 21:32
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I do not see a young lady.
Post 20 Nov 2010, 21:42
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rocketsoft



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me neither
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Artlav



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What constitutes seeing at the same time?

We're used to see things consistently, so it seems that the brain can't get a lock on the geometry of the two different faces on one head, and keeps waving between two possibilities forever, unless prompted to give either one or the other, either of which is more consistent separately than the weird whole.
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asmhack



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old lady's mouth.... is young lady's necklace

Transliterating the Ancient Greek ἔννοῐᾰ (ennoia, “thought”, “intention”).
unit of knowledge created in the mind by a unique combination of characteristics

<> Consciousness
Post 20 Nov 2010, 21:54
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i see a old lady, with a young lady nose.
this is a simple and really basic illusion.
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Nice!
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i see a Core 2 Quad, Is this normal ? Razz

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sleepsleep: Human brain works in a way we could roughly call "pattern matching". It tries hard to match, even if the match isn't perfect. Now if what you see is right somewhere in the middle between 2 "patterns", this "switching" is what you get.

brain trying too hard and giving false idea of reality: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKeuhXQj3MM&feature=related
matching 2 different patterns: http://www.wyrmcorp.com/galleries/illusions/flipflop.shtml
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sleepsleep
Smile yeah cool... thanks vid.

would evolution bring us to another stage where we could get 2 conscious? hehek
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Quote:
would evolution bring us to another stage where we could get 2 conscious? hehek

I don't think that would raise chances of successful reproduction Very Happy
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edfed



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about the 3D illusion
Image



in fact, we have more than 1 consiousness.
our brain is a combinaisons of a lot of micro consciousness.
but all are linked togeteher.

the real schyzoprenia is when there are distinct areas of consciouness.
it lead to multiple personalities, because there are separations.

in my brain, i feel that everything is connected to the central mind.
i try to find a way to literaly cut my mind in two parts (because i want to have two lifes really separated, i am bored to be always me), but it is hard, because there are really a lot of connections to cut. and it can be dangerous. just imagine if the result is doctor jeckyll and myster hyde...
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interesting. Looking at it I could see either one, but not both at the same time. Closing my eyes I could picture it as two different images at the same time. Then looking at it again I could see both, almost like a double exposure.
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Hmmm, after I know and kind of "analyzed" them both, it is quote easy to see them both at the same time. A lot easier than in the case of Ambiguous cube.
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edemko



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0.
Image

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Reflecting a picture left-to-right and vice-versa helps.
Try viewing own pics and new details will appear.
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Tomasz Grysztar wrote:
Hmmm, after I know and kind of "analyzed" them both, it is quote easy to see them both at the same time. A lot easier than in the case of Ambiguous cube.
There's pattern of recognition with the ambiguous cube that makes sense. It's the brain determining what to see based on which face you look at, and how looking at that face would rule out the possibility of other perspectives if the cube were solid. For example, look at the bottom face, and you see a cube tilted up to the right, but look at the top, and you see a cube tilted down and to the left.

I tried to see what you had in your "optical" folder and found the dropbox cube. Image
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sleepsleep
crazy Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked

i printscreen from
http://serendip.brynmawr.edu/bb/contrastcolor/

these are not illusion, these are prove that we got tricked all the time,

the center cube are same color, but we see one dark brown on top, then a bright brown in cube front, Shocked

the checkerboard A and B is same color, and they are CRAZY,


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it has to do with the continious change in shades. if you do something similar s where the change in shade is not continious enough and you can recognise well defined borders of the shadowed (darker) region you have no illusion.
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