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Artlav



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Artlav
Were there any operating systems or plain-boot utilities for the 8086-80186 era systems?

Basically, i'm making an emulator for XT/V20 kind of system, and the only software i can find are DOS, MS-DOS, another DOS and DOS programs.
Problem is, something too simple like boot sectors or my old 16bit OS works perfectly, while something slightly more complex hangs or crashes somewhere far and deep, but before any use.

So, 80186 diagnostic programs, alternative OS'es, bootsector games and demos, or something similar is what i'm looking for, and if you know where to look, please tell.
Post 14 Nov 2010, 17:45
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shoorick



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there should be a CP/M-86 - port of CP/M-80 to 8086 CPU
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rugxulo



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Minix 2.0.2 (16-bit) has support for 8086. (2.0.4 can run on 286, but that may be more of a RAM limit than actual cpu instruction compatibility.)

Also don't forget Linux/ELKS.

MikeOS, last I checked, was 16-bit too.

P.S. I know it's still technically DOS-related, but Win 3.0 [sic] could run on 8086.
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Artlav



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Thank you both for info.

CP/M i did found, and it kinda works, but i have no idea what it should look like. Anyway, it exposes bugs and therefore useful.

Minix 2.0.2 boots up to "Executing in real mode", and then something hangs. Browsing the FM for the moment.

MikeOS uses 32bit instructions as early as the bootloader. not PC XT compatible.

ELKS is tricky... Some uncommon tar formats. still trying.

Win 3.0 needs DOS, DOS gives lots of excuses not to boot.


Found some booter games... Alley cat hangs in game, lode runner got timing errors in motion, frogger is to fast and exposes input bug. Fun never ends Smile
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baldr



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Artlav,

Sid Meyer's Pirates! (1987, CGA — IIRC) was bootable from 5.25" 360 KiB floppy.
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Artlav



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baldr wrote:
Artlav,

Sid Meyer's Pirates! (1987, CGA — IIRC) was bootable from 5.25" 360 KiB floppy.
I/O ERROR NR 45 in a blinking box with a saber-shaped cursor.
Whatever that means.

Out of the blue, PC-DOS 4 booted up, and things started rolling in an avalanche. Now every DOS from 1.1 up to 3.30 seems to boot up nicely.

Floppy controller bugs, keyboard bugs, CGA retrace stuck in sync with CPU (NC was redrawing panels bit by bit on every key press. spooky), floppy write support without destroying rest of the cylinder, NDD works, all 4 floppy drives in good health, format works, Zeliard works and playable, sunset.

x86 was a beautiful sight in it's infancy. That BIOS thing is amazing, an OS embedded in the PC, i quite forgot how useful it can be. All things making sense, whole system largely consistent, crutches hard to come by. Why couldn't they kept developing it in the same spirit, instead of the mess we ended up with? Damn compatibility.


Anyway, CheckIt 4 hangs on something called "CPU interrupt bug"... Something about NMI, it seems.
Anyone happen to have a description of that one, or a copy of the thing's manual?
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baldr



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Artlav wrote:
I/O ERROR NR 45 in a blinking box with a saber-shaped cursor.
Whatever that means.
You may add some diagnostic output (failed int13 service requests are primary suspects). I'll research later into this.
Artlav wrote:
Anyway, CheckIt 4 hangs on something called "CPU interrupt bug"... Something about NMI, it seems.
Anyone happen to have a description of that one, or a copy of the thing's manual?
IIRC this test diagnose hlt not resuming execution after interrupt.
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Artlav



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baldr wrote:
You may add some diagnostic output (failed int13 service requests are primary suspects). I'll research later into this.


Image

Maybe it's the floppy, and yet:
Code:
Called int 13h function, AH=00h, AL=00h, DL=55h
CF=0
Called int 13h function, AH=02h, AL=01h, DL=00h
CF=0
Called int 13h function, AH=02h, AL=01h, DL=00h
CF=0
Called int 13h function, AH=02h, AL=01h, DL=00h
CF=0
Called int 13h function, AH=02h, AL=01h, DL=00h
CF=0
Called int 13h function, AH=02h, AL=01h, DL=00h
CF=0
Called int 13h function, AH=02h, AL=01h, DL=00h
CF=0
Called int 13h function, AH=02h, AL=01h, DL=00h
CF=0
Called int 13h function, AH=02h, AL=01h, DL=00h
CF=0
Called int 13h function, AH=02h, AL=01h, DL=00h
CF=0
Called int 13h function, AH=00h, AL=00h, DL=FEh
CF=0
Called int 13h function, AH=02h, AL=01h, DL=00h
CF=0
Called int 13h function, AH=00h, AL=00h, DL=00h
CF=0
Called int 13h function, AH=17h, AL=02h, DL=00h
CF=0
Called int 13h function, AH=02h, AL=01h, DL=00h
CF=0
Called int 13h function, AH=00h, AL=00h, DL=00h
CF=0
Called int 13h function, AH=17h, AL=02h, DL=00h
CF=0
Called int 13h function, AH=02h, AL=01h, DL=00h
CF=0
Called int 13h function, AH=00h, AL=00h, DL=00h
CF=0
Called int 13h function, AH=17h, AL=02h, DL=00h
CF=0
Called int 13h function, AH=02h, AL=01h, DL=00h
CF=0
Called int 13h function, AH=00h, AL=00h, DL=00h
CF=0
Called int 13h function, AH=17h, AL=02h, DL=00h
CF=0
Called int 13h function, AH=02h, AL=01h, DL=00h
CF=0
Called int 13h function, AH=00h, AL=00h, DL=00h
CF=0
Called int 13h function, AH=17h, AL=02h, DL=00h
CF=0
    

All seems well, no errors returned.


baldr wrote:
IIRC this test diagnose hlt not resuming execution after interrupt.
It appears to, the CPU is stuck on hlt with IF=0, which suggests something NMI-related to me.
No I/O ports activity prior, and if NMI is sent by a button, that's what it does:
Code:
[CPU  ]:286866404-18D6:0356:SP=F138:DX=0000h [50h]:push   ax
[CPU  ]:286866405-18D6:0357:SP=F136:DX=0000h [51h]:push   cx
[CPU  ]:286866406-18D6:0358:SP=F134:DX=0000h [52h]:push   dx
[CPU  ]:286866407-18D6:0359:SP=F132:DX=0000h [53h]:push   bx
[CPU  ]:286866408-18D6:035A:SP=F130:DX=0000h [54h]:push   sp
[CPU  ]:286866409-18D6:035B:SP=F12E:DX=0000h [55h]:push   bp
[CPU  ]:286866410-18D6:035C:SP=F12C:DX=0000h [56h]:push   si
[CPU  ]:286866411-18D6:035D:SP=F12A:DX=0000h [57h]:push   di
[CPU  ]:286866412-18D6:035E:SP=F128:DX=0000h [1Eh]:push   ds
[CPU  ]:286866413-18D6:035F:SP=F126:DX=0000h [06h]:push   es
[CPU  ]:286866414-18D6:0360:SP=F124:DX=0000h [8Bh]:mov    bp,sp
[CPU  ]:286866415-18D6:0362:SP=F124:DX=0000h [B8h]:mov    ax,4E09h
[CPU  ]:286866416-18D6:0365:SP=F124:DX=0000h [8Eh]:mov    ds,ax
[CPU  ]:286866417-18D6:0367:SP=F124:DX=0000h [FCh]:cld
[CPU  ]:286866418-18D6:0368:SP=F124:DX=0000h [9Ah]:call   18AFh:001Bh
[CPU  ]:286866419-18AF:001B:SP=F120:DX=0000h [80h]:cmp    [D946h],46h
[CPU  ]:286866420-18AF:0020:SP=F120:DX=0000h [74h]:jz     0059h
[CPU  ]:286866421-18AF:0059:SP=F120:DX=0000h [E4h]:in     al,62h
[CPU  ]:286866422-18AF:005B:SP=F120:DX=0000h [EBh]:jmp    5Dh
[CPU  ]:286866423-18AF:005D:SP=F120:DX=0000h [EBh]:jmp    5Fh
[CPU  ]:286866424-18AF:005F:SP=F120:DX=0000h [A8h]:test   al,C0h
[CPU  ]:286866425-18AF:0061:SP=F120:DX=0000h [74h]:jz     007Dh
[CPU  ]:286866426-18AF:007D:SP=F120:DX=0000h [B8h]:mov    ax,0001h
[CPU  ]:286866427-18AF:0080:SP=F120:DX=0000h [CBh]:ret    far
[CPU  ]:286866428-18D6:036D:SP=F124:DX=0000h [0Bh]:or     ax,ax
[CPU  ]:286866429-18D6:036F:SP=F124:DX=0000h [75h]:jnz    0377h
[CPU  ]:286866430-18D6:0377:SP=F124:DX=0000h [8Eh]:mov    es,[B546h]
[CPU  ]:286866431-18D6:037B:SP=F124:DX=0000h [26h]:es:
[CPU  ]:286866432-18D6:037C:SP=F124:DX=0000h [FFh]:push     [0812h]
[CPU  ]:286866433-18D6:0380:SP=F122:DX=0000h [26h]:es:
[CPU  ]:286866434-18D6:0381:SP=F122:DX=0000h [FFh]:push     [0810h]
[CPU  ]:286866435-18D6:0385:SP=F120:DX=0000h [9Ah]:call   3C75h:06D2h
[CPU  ]:286866436-3C75:06D2:SP=F11C:DX=0000h [55h]:push   bp
[CPU  ]:286866437-3C75:06D3:SP=F11A:DX=0000h [8Bh]:mov    bp,sp
[CPU  ]:286866438-3C75:06D5:SP=F11A:DX=0000h [8Bh]:mov    ax,[ss:bp+08h]
[CPU  ]:286866439-3C75:06D8:SP=F11A:DX=0000h [8Bh]:mov    cx,[ss:bp+06h]
[CPU  ]:286866440-3C75:06DB:SP=F11A:DX=0000h [5Dh]:pop    bp
[CPU  ]:286866441-3C75:06DC:SP=F11C:DX=0000h [8Bh]:mov    sp,bp
[CPU  ]:286866442-3C75:06DE:SP=F124:DX=0000h [87h]:xchg   [ss:bp+12h],ax
[CPU  ]:286866443-3C75:06E1:SP=F124:DX=0000h [87h]:xchg   [ss:bp+10h],cx
[CPU  ]:286866444-3C75:06E4:SP=F124:DX=0000h [07h]:pop    es
[CPU  ]:286866445-3C75:06E5:SP=F126:DX=0000h [1Fh]:pop    ds
[CPU  ]:286866446-3C75:06E6:SP=F128:DX=0000h [5Fh]:pop    di
[CPU  ]:286866447-3C75:06E7:SP=F12A:DX=0000h [5Eh]:pop    si
[CPU  ]:286866448-3C75:06E8:SP=F12C:DX=0000h [5Dh]:pop    bp
[CPU  ]:286866449-3C75:06E9:SP=F12E:DX=0000h [5Bh]:pop    bx
[CPU  ]:286866450-3C75:06EA:SP=F130:DX=0000h [5Bh]:pop    bx
[CPU  ]:286866451-3C75:06EB:SP=F132:DX=0000h [5Ah]:pop    dx
[CPU  ]:286866452-3C75:06EC:SP=F134:DX=0000h [CBh]:ret    far
[CPU  ]:286866453-F000:F85F:SP=F138:DX=0000h [50h]:push   ax
[CPU  ]:286866454-F000:F860:SP=F136:DX=0000h [E4h]:in     al,62h
[CPU  ]:286866455-F000:F862:SP=F136:DX=0000h [A8h]:test   al,C0h
[CPU  ]:286866456-F000:F864:SP=F136:DX=0000h [75h]:jnz    F869h
[CPU  ]:286866457-F000:F866:SP=F136:DX=0000h [E9h]:jmp    F911h
[CPU  ]:286866458-F000:F911:SP=F136:DX=0000h [58h]:pop    ax
[CPU  ]:286866459-F000:F912:SP=F138:DX=0000h [CFh]:iret
[CPU  ]:286866460-2557:01B3:SP=F13E:DX=0000h [55h]:push   bp
[CPU  ]:286866461-2557:01B4:SP=F13C:DX=0000h [8Bh]:mov    bp,sp
[CPU  ]:286866462-2557:01B6:SP=F13C:DX=0000h [81h]:cmp    [ss:bp+02h],01B0h
[CPU  ]:286866463-2557:01BB:SP=F13C:DX=0000h [5Dh]:pop    bp
[CPU  ]:286866464-2557:01BC:SP=F13E:DX=0000h [77h]:jnbe   01BFh
[CPU  ]:286866465-2557:01BF:SP=F13E:DX=0000h [A1h]:mov    ax,ov
[CPU  ]:286866466-2557:01C2:SP=F13E:DX=0000h [26h]:es:
[CPU  ]:286866467-2557:01C3:SP=F13E:DX=0000h [A3h]:mov    ov,ax
[CPU  ]:286866468-2557:01C6:SP=F13E:DX=0000h [A1h]:mov    ax,ov
[CPU  ]:286866469-2557:01C9:SP=F13E:DX=0000h [26h]:es:
[CPU  ]:286866470-2557:01CA:SP=F13E:DX=0000h [A3h]:mov    ov,ax
[CPU  ]:286866471-2557:01CD:SP=F13E:DX=0000h [FBh]:sti
[CPU  ]:286866472-F000:FEA5:SP=F138:DX=0000h [FBh]:sti
[CPU  ]:286866473-F000:FEA6:SP=F138:DX=0000h [1Eh]:push   ds
[CPU  ]:286866474-F000:FEA7:SP=F136:DX=0000h [52h]:push   dx
[CPU  ]:286866475-F000:FEA8:SP=F134:DX=0000h [50h]:push   ax
[CPU  ]:286866476-F000:FEA9:SP=F132:DX=0000h [B8h]:mov    ax,0040h
[CPU  ]:286866477-F000:FEAC:SP=F132:DX=0000h [8Eh]:mov    ds,ax
[CPU  ]:286866478-F000:FEAE:SP=F132:DX=0000h [FEh]:dec    [0040h]
[CPU  ]:286866479-F000:FEB2:SP=F132:DX=0000h [75h]:jnz    FEBFh
[CPU  ]:286866480-F000:FEBF:SP=F132:DX=0000h [FFh]:inc      [006Ch]
[CPU  ]:286866481-F000:FEC3:SP=F132:DX=0000h [75h]:jnz    FEC9h
[CPU  ]:286866482-F000:FEC9:SP=F132:DX=0000h [83h]:cmp    [006Eh],00h
[CPU  ]:286866483-F000:FECE:SP=F132:DX=0000h [75h]:jnz    FEE9h
[CPU  ]:286866484-F000:FEE9:SP=F132:DX=0000h [CDh]:int    1Ch
[CPU  ]:286866485-18D6:02F8:SP=F12C:DX=0000h [50h]:push   ax
[CPU  ]:286866486-18D6:02F9:SP=F12A:DX=0000h [51h]:push   cx
[CPU  ]:286866487-18D6:02FA:SP=F128:DX=0000h [52h]:push   dx
[CPU  ]:286866488-18D6:02FB:SP=F126:DX=0000h [53h]:push   bx
[CPU  ]:286866489-18D6:02FC:SP=F124:DX=0000h [54h]:push   sp
[CPU  ]:286866490-18D6:02FD:SP=F122:DX=0000h [55h]:push   bp
[CPU  ]:286866491-18D6:02FE:SP=F120:DX=0000h [56h]:push   si
[CPU  ]:286866492-18D6:02FF:SP=F11E:DX=0000h [57h]:push   di
[CPU  ]:286866493-18D6:0300:SP=F11C:DX=0000h [1Eh]:push   ds
[CPU  ]:286866494-18D6:0301:SP=F11A:DX=0000h [06h]:push   es
[CPU  ]:286866495-18D6:0302:SP=F118:DX=0000h [8Bh]:mov    bp,sp
[CPU  ]:286866496-18D6:0304:SP=F118:DX=0000h [B8h]:mov    ax,4E09h
[CPU  ]:286866497-18D6:0307:SP=F118:DX=0000h [8Eh]:mov    ds,ax
[CPU  ]:286866498-18D6:0309:SP=F118:DX=0000h [FCh]:cld
[CPU  ]:286866499-18D6:030A:SP=F118:DX=0000h [8Eh]:mov    es,[B540h]
[CPU  ]:286866500-18D6:030E:SP=F118:DX=0000h [26h]:es:
[CPU  ]:286866501-18D6:030F:SP=F118:DX=0000h [83h]:add    [0C5Ch],0Ch
[CPU  ]:286866502-18D6:0314:SP=F118:DX=0000h [26h]:es:
[CPU  ]:286866503-18D6:0315:SP=F118:DX=0000h [83h]:adc    [0C5Eh],0Ch
[CPU  ]:286866504-18D6:031A:SP=F118:DX=0000h [8Eh]:mov    es,[B544h]
[CPU  ]:286866505-18D6:031E:SP=F118:DX=0000h [26h]:es:
[CPU  ]:286866506-18D6:031F:SP=F118:DX=0000h [FFh]:push     [0350h]
[CPU  ]:286866507-18D6:0323:SP=F116:DX=0000h [26h]:es:
[CPU  ]:286866508-18D6:0324:SP=F116:DX=0000h [FFh]:push     [034Eh]
[CPU  ]:286866509-18D6:0328:SP=F114:DX=0000h [9Ah]:call   3C75h:06D2h
[CPU  ]:286866510-3C75:06D2:SP=F110:DX=0000h [55h]:push   bp
[CPU  ]:286866511-3C75:06D3:SP=F10E:DX=0000h [8Bh]:mov    bp,sp
[CPU  ]:286866512-3C75:06D5:SP=F10E:DX=0000h [8Bh]:mov    ax,[ss:bp+08h]
[CPU  ]:286866513-3C75:06D8:SP=F10E:DX=0000h [8Bh]:mov    cx,[ss:bp+06h]
[CPU  ]:286866514-3C75:06DB:SP=F10E:DX=0000h [5Dh]:pop    bp
[CPU  ]:286866515-3C75:06DC:SP=F110:DX=0000h [8Bh]:mov    sp,bp
[CPU  ]:286866516-3C75:06DE:SP=F118:DX=0000h [87h]:xchg   [ss:bp+12h],ax
[CPU  ]:286866517-3C75:06E1:SP=F118:DX=0000h [87h]:xchg   [ss:bp+10h],cx
[CPU  ]:286866518-3C75:06E4:SP=F118:DX=0000h [07h]:pop    es
[CPU  ]:286866519-3C75:06E5:SP=F11A:DX=0000h [1Fh]:pop    ds
[CPU  ]:286866520-3C75:06E6:SP=F11C:DX=0000h [5Fh]:pop    di
[CPU  ]:286866521-3C75:06E7:SP=F11E:DX=0000h [5Eh]:pop    si
[CPU  ]:286866522-3C75:06E8:SP=F120:DX=0000h [5Dh]:pop    bp
[CPU  ]:286866523-3C75:06E9:SP=F122:DX=0000h [5Bh]:pop    bx
[CPU  ]:286866524-3C75:06EA:SP=F124:DX=0000h [5Bh]:pop    bx
[CPU  ]:286866525-3C75:06EB:SP=F126:DX=0000h [5Ah]:pop    dx
[CPU  ]:286866526-3C75:06EC:SP=F128:DX=0000h [CBh]:ret    far
[CPU  ]:286866527-F000:FF53:SP=F12C:DX=0000h [CFh]:iret
[CPU  ]:286866528-F000:FEEB:SP=F132:DX=0000h [B0h]:mov    al,20h
[CPU  ]:286866529-F000:FEED:SP=F132:DX=0000h [E6h]:out    20h,al
[CPU  ]:286866530-F000:FEEF:SP=F132:DX=0000h [58h]:pop    ax
[CPU  ]:286866531-F000:FEF0:SP=F134:DX=0000h [5Ah]:pop    dx
[CPU  ]:286866532-F000:FEF1:SP=F136:DX=0000h [1Fh]:pop    ds
[CPU  ]:286866533-F000:FEF2:SP=F138:DX=0000h [CFh]:iret
[CPU  ]:286866534-2557:01CE:SP=F13E:DX=0000h [83h]:add    sp,E3h
[CPU  ]:286866535-2557:01D1:SP=F144:DX=0000h [E3h]:jcxz    01D8h
[CPU  ]:286866536-2557:01D8:SP=F144:DX=0000h [B8h]:mov    ax,0000h
[CPU  ]:286866537-2557:01DB:SP=F144:DX=0000h [59h]:pop    cx
[CPU  ]:286866538-2557:01DC:SP=F146:DX=0000h [07h]:pop    es
[CPU  ]:286866539-2557:01DD:SP=F148:DX=0000h [CBh]:ret    far
[CPU  ]:286866540-0000:0000:SP=F14C:DX=0000h [CCh]:int    3
[CPU  ]:286866541-0070:07F6:SP=F146:DX=0000h [CFh]:iret
[CPU  ]:286866542-0000:0001:SP=F14C:DX=0000h [00h]:add    [di+3Ch],dh
[CPU  ]:286866543-0000:0004:SP=F14C:DX=0000h [F6h]:test   [bx]
[CPU  ]:286866544-0000:0007:SP=F14C:DX=0000h [00h]:add    [ss:bp+03h],dl
[CPU  ]:286866545-0000:000A:SP=F14C:DX=0000h [D6h]:Unknown, mod/rm:>18(mod=0,to=3,r/m=0)
[CPU  ]:286866546-0000:000B:SP=F14C:DX=0000h [18h]:sbb    dh,dh
[CPU  ]:286866547-0000:000D:SP=F14C:DX=0000h [07h]:pop    es
[CPU  ]:286866548-0000:000E:SP=F14E:DX=0000h [70h]:jo     0010h
[CPU  ]:286866549-0000:0010:SP=F14E:DX=0000h [F6h]:test   [bx]
[CPU  ]:286866550-0000:0013:SP=F14E:DX=0000h [00h]:add    [si+FFFFFFFFh],dl
[CPU  ]:286866551-0000:0016:SP=F14E:DX=0000h [00h]:add    al,dh
[CPU  ]:286866552-0000:0018:SP=F14E:DX=0000h [E4h]:in     al,00h
[CPU  ]:286866553-0000:001A:SP=F14E:DX=0000h [00h]:add    al,al
[CPU  ]:286866554-0000:001C:SP=F14E:DX=0000h [23h]:and    di,di
[CPU  ]:286866555-0000:001E:SP=F14E:DX=0000h [00h]:add    al,dh
[CPU  ]:286866556-0000:0020:SP=F14E:DX=0000h [A5h]:movsw
[CPU  ]:286866557-0000:0021:SP=F14E:DX=0000h [FEh]:inc    [bx+si]
[CPU  ]:286866558-0000:0023:SP=F14E:DX=0000h [F0h]:Unknown, mod/rm:>46(mod=1,to=0,r/m=6)
[CPU  ]:286866559-0000:0024:SP=F14E:DX=0000h [46h]:inc    si
[CPU  ]:286866560-0000:0025:SP=F14E:DX=0000h [06h]:push   es
[CPU  ]:286866561-0000:0026:SP=F14C:DX=0000h [FCh]:cld
[CPU  ]:286866562-0000:0027:SP=F14C:DX=0000h [0Fh]:2 byte cmd, mod/rm:>23(mod=0,to=4,r/m=3)
[CPU  ]:286866562 Internal Fault on Command [0Fh], mrm[FF(mod=3,to=7,r/m=7)], Processor Halted.
    


Same thing happens whatever interrupt i send or if i just unlock the CPU - it quickly gets to an odd retf, and launches itself plowing into the IVT.

I suspect it waits for something else.
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Artlav



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rugxulo wrote:
Win 3.0 [sic] could run on 8086.
Heh, and it actually does.
Not too pretty with CGA, but recognizable:
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Apparently the pirates game is more complex than Microsoft's best of the time.
Post 22 Nov 2010, 15:30
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