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Overflowz



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Overflowz 08 Nov 2010, 20:31
Hello everyone. Smile I'm learning and learning new things here. I have now focused my mind on winsock programming. But I have so much questions.. I'll discus them here. I found some examples in Google and here also but I don't understand much from there. If anyone can write example with less API functions and less code for those structure I'll be very thankful.. Smile
Code:
#1 Program should connect to some web server (ex: google.com) and send HEAD request and receive result and save in to the buffer.

#2 Program that will be bound to some port (ex: telnet port 23) and when someone will connect, send him some data from program and close connection.

#3 Program that will be bound to some port (ex: telnet port 23) and will receive data from other computer and save it to buffer.

#4 Program that will be infinitely listen connection and will never close it and then will receive data and send back with input. just like a chat..


P.S I'm saying it again. I already checked on this forum and Google but no one from them is good understandable for me. And 1 more thing. It should be in FASM with easiest source (if possible..) And I think it will be nice tutorial for other beginners too Smile

Thank you for your time everyone Smile
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asmhack 09 Nov 2010, 00:14
http://flatassembler.net/examples/quetannon.zip
hope you won't transform it into a badass trojan
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Overflowz 09 Nov 2010, 00:45
asmhack, maybe you have bad eyes ? Wink
Code:
#1 I found some examples in Google and here also but I don't understand much from there.
#2 If anyone can write example with less API functions and less code for those structure...
#3 P.S I'm saying it again. I already checked on this forum and Google but no one from them is good understandable for me. And 1 more thing. It should be in FASM with easiest source (if possible..) And I think it will be nice tutorial for other beginners too

I'm not trying to "hack" things just interested how does it work, if so I could just copy source and replace things and done. PLEASE think before posting. Thanks.
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revolution 09 Nov 2010, 01:04
Overflowz: Show what you have so far. At least give us some confidence that you are trying your best to get something working.

You can't really expect others to write stuff from scratch, it would be easier for others to modify something for you that you are having trouble with.

Most people have limited time available to help out so it would be best for you if you try to make it easier for others to help you. And that means posting some code you are working on and ask specific questions. Usually one question at a time is the way to maximise the desire of others to help.
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Overflowz 09 Nov 2010, 10:01
Allright. I'll show you codes and someone convert main functions from there please. Smile

#1 Program called Headreq http://madwizard.org/download/winsock/headreq_asm.zip

#2 Can't find any example.. just simple as it sounds..

#3 Like reverse of 2, for example server is running on 23 port. Connected to server and sent some data, clicked enter and connection closed and result saved in buffer.

#4 Picnic's Simple Chat. http://board.flatassembler.net/download.php?id=5156

this is all what I mean. Thanks.

Oh and P.S Interesting about difference between Blocking sockets and non-blocking and both examples.
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b1528932 09 Nov 2010, 14:07
its much harder than u think.
you must first understand how windows managwe protocols, what are protocol properties, learn how functions inform you about certain network events (so you implicitly must know well tcp/ip). You need to know internals about your io method (assuming you are not a noob using blocking send/recv thread per client).

And if you want to send http request, you need to learn http, because its insane complicated protocol.

Ive spent much time learning this, and unless you dont plan using this knowleadge to hack something, there is no point wasing your time with it. Goto linux if you want to write 'friendly' programs. Windows is dead when it come to future programming, imho. The only thing keeping it on market is its popularity. Youll see, windows 10 will be opensource based on linux. All windows features will be emulated for backward compatibility.
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Overflowz 09 Nov 2010, 14:48
b1528932, I know that things already. I'll explain what I don't know right now.
first, what to do first. I mean when WSAStartup initialized, then I'm creating socket and then I have no idea what should be next command for somethings.. I'm trying to learn on windows first, next time I'll use Linux. Just I'm trying to make programs on windows cause many people are using it in my country. I need just simple examples of them.. Smile and BTW I don't understand why IP is converting to other thing, I have question, does that converting IP from big-endian to little-endian ? Hope someone will make examples of that structure what I wrote last post. Thanks.
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revolution 09 Nov 2010, 14:56
If you want to connect to google.com then you have to knows its IP, so you need to do a DNS lookup first.

Then if you want to connect to a particular service at google.com then you need to know the port to connect to, HTTP=80, HTTPS=443 etc.

Then if you want to send data to google.com on port 80 then you have to know the HTTP protocol details with properly formatted data to send to google.com.

All that is just for #1 on your list. Once you get that all working then you can move to #2 and onwards.
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Overflowz 09 Nov 2010, 15:03
revolution, I know already that what it should do. But I don't know how to code that. I'll write little example how I'm thinking it would be.
Code:
format PE console 4.0
include 'WIN32AX.INC'
entry main
section '.data' data readable writeable
hSock dd ?
s_data db "HEAD / HTTP/1.1",0
wsaData WSADATA
sin sockaddr_in
sizeof.sin = $ - sockaddr_in
section '.text' code readable executable
proc main
invoke WSAStartup,0202h,wsaData
invoke socket,AF_INET,SOCK_STREAM,0
mov [hSock],eax
...
section '.idata' import data readable
blablabla..

I have no idea what should I write next to send "s_data" request to server and then receive output back.. I just need that nothing else. On listen I know first I should make socket then bind then listen then accept and done but on send I really don't know. I'm just asking about that examples Smile
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revolution 09 Nov 2010, 15:08
Do a DNS lookup, get the IP for google.com.

hint: invoke gethostbyname, ...
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Overflowz 09 Nov 2010, 15:19
maybe full example please ? Smile I know gethostbyname I mean I don't know what to do next. I'll write 1 more example after that code how I think it would be.
Code:
invoke gethostbyname,ipBuffer
;I don't know where IP is located now.
invoke connect,[hSock],sin,sizeof.sin
invoke send,[hSock],s_data,sizeof.s_data
invoke ExitProcess,0

Am I right ?
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revolution 09 Nov 2010, 15:22
Overflowz wrote:
maybe full example please ? Smile
First result returned by google.

https://encrypted.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&q=gethostbyname&btnG=Search

BTW: asmhack already gave a full working example but you rejected it. So we have to do this step by step. We can't rush the learning process.


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Overflowz 09 Nov 2010, 15:23
I saw that but I'm not programmer to understand what that structure means and how to use that too.. I don't have problem about getting host IP. just how to send..
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revolution 09 Nov 2010, 15:24
Overflowz wrote:
I saw that but I'm not programmer to understand what that structure means and how to use that too.. I don't have problem about getting host IP. just how to send..
You can't send yet, you have to get the IP first, it is not optional. Without the IP you have nowhere to send to.
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Overflowz 09 Nov 2010, 15:28
Urghh I hate English. For example I have IP not site. how to send packets there I don't know what command should be next and next after creating socket..
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revolution 09 Nov 2010, 15:28
Here is small snippet from some of my code:
Code:
      mov     eax,dword[edx+HTTP_STATE.hostent_buff+hostent.h_addr_list]
  mov     eax,[eax+0]                             ;get first entry in listhwnd
        test    eax,eax
     jz      .cant_find_IP
       mov     eax,[eax+0]                             ;get IP
     test    eax,eax
     jz      .cant_find_IP
       stdcall HTTP_set_IP_address,edx,eax

;...

proc HTTP_set_IP_address uses ebx,state,IP
   mov     ebx,[state]
 mov     eax,[IP]
    mov     [ebx+HTTP_STATE.sock_addr.sin_addr],eax
;...
edx is a pointer to my internal structures, you can ignore it. Just learn the code for extracting the IP address.
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revolution 09 Nov 2010, 15:32
Once you have the IP stored in the sock_addr structure, next is to set the port.

hint: invoke htons, ...
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Overflowz 09 Nov 2010, 15:32
Sad(((((((( You don't understand me. FORGET everything and try to focus on this:
I have an ip address for example 127.0.0.1
I need to send some data to 127.0.0.1
and I don't know what commands should I use after creating socket.
I need just example not explanation cause I don't understand so much about that things. I can only understand from sources.. Thank you. Brb after 3 hours and I'll post.
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revolution 09 Nov 2010, 15:36
Overflowz wrote:
I need just example ...
Okay, here a fully tested and working example:

http://flatassembler.net/examples/quetannon.zip

You can safely ignore my attempts to explain this to you step by step and instead read the sources.

When all else fails, read the source. Wink
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Overflowz 09 Nov 2010, 17:19
... Smile just say u can't help.
asmhack wrote:
http://flatassembler.net/examples/quetannon.zip
hope you won't transform it into a badass trojan
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