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shoorick 29 Sep 2010, 05:09
there are exists a great thing: KVM (keyboard-video-mouse) switch. Use single set of keyboard, mouse and monitor to work with 2-4 computers easy (i use such at home). 8-ports KVM are very expensive, but 2-4 are not. also my 2-port switch switches sound also.
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29 Sep 2010, 05:09 |
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edfed 30 Sep 2010, 00:08
the problem with it is
netbooks don't have PS/2 port old pc have AT connector for keyboard, and use COM port for mouse. then, there is a need to unify this, the only way i think is possible is the use of external electronics, driver by a master pc, in order to generate signals for the slaves keyboard and mouse connectors. |
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30 Sep 2010, 00:08 |
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shoorick 30 Sep 2010, 04:38
Then it is better to make LAN and control slave PC via TCP/UDP. otherwise it might be better to look into MCU direction. also it is possible to use COM ports for connection (for netbook it is possible to use USB-COM converter, maybe can be taken ready as some cell-phone cable).
++++ how much old is your old PC? AT keyboard connector has the same signals as PS/2, there were adapters (now it is hard to buy them), but it's not hard to do it by yourself if you have ps/2 socket and DIN (?) connector. I made one of socket from dead motherboard and cable with DIN connector of dead keyboard. same about mouse: your "old" board may have 5-pins connector. there were external optional ps/2 mouse connectors some years ago. you can buy it on "electronical garbage market", or made it similar of ps/2 socket and 5 pin-in-line "mom" connector (easy to get even now). there are four lines used, they differ from board to board, thus you have to find not connected pin first (it even may be absent), then find +5 pin and ground pin and connect them properly to the socket, left two pins are data and clock - connect them in any choice and check if mouse works, if not - swap data and clock wires and check again. similar about USB - you may found USB as 2x4, 2x5 or 2x8 pins connector on the board. there are external optional USB sockets possible to connect to them, but you have ALWAYS check connectors for BOTH sockets for proper +5/GND pinning, as there are some different variants, misconnecting will destroy external USB device! if the board have USB, it is mostly may have USB keyboard support. of course, ps/2 mouse, as well as on-board USB, has to be turn on in BIOS setup - old PC boards may have them turned off by default. also there are external USB cards, but ensure if it will support old PCI interface. |
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30 Sep 2010, 04:38 |
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edfed 30 Sep 2010, 22:10
ok, then, i just need to output USB signals from the master, in order to give USB keyboard & mouse to the two others pcs.
then, i need to know exactlly what is send on this usb port (maybe it is time to make some oscilloscope with the sound card??). usb port is binary, COM is binary, LPT is binary, then, it can be very possibe to do that without MCU, just a good program in the master PC, and some transistors to make the adapter. make a lan is out. i want something really low level, the more as possible, but not the switch, because i really have 3 different interfaces for the 3 pcs about mouse and keyboard. and i don't want to do it that way. the master slave connection looks many mor interresting because it is external, and a simple execution of a .COM program can control the COM and LPT ports on the PC i want as master. |
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30 Sep 2010, 22:10 |
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revolution 30 Sep 2010, 22:27
The USB port is very complex with initialisation protocols and special signalling requirements. To make a switch for it would be tricky. But if you still want to go ahead then the USB spec is fully open and available for download.
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30 Sep 2010, 22:27 |
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revo1ution 01 Oct 2010, 00:13
revolution wrote: The USB port is very complex with initialisation protocols and special signalling requirements. To make a switch for it would be tricky. But if you still want to go ahead then the USB spec is fully open and available for download. Unfortunately there is no way to simply "bit-bash" the USB port like you could with the old RS232 serial port |
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01 Oct 2010, 00:13 |
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shoorick 01 Oct 2010, 04:18
if you can get up USB on the old PC, then you could use USB KVM switch to handle both netbook and old PC. otherwise you may spend a (half of) year inventing the keyboard and the mouse.
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