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TmX



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I already graduated from the university, but strangely my MSDN AA account is still active,
so I can grab the final release of VS 2010.

First impression: the IDE is visually more appealing, due to the usage of due to the usage of WPF.

At the same time, the IDE is significantly slower than its predecessor, VS 2008. It takes more time to load the IDE,
open projects, show intellisense box, etc.
Blame it on the WPF?

I was happy with VS 2008. It was fast & responsive. But the 2010 is... slow. Makes me disappointed.

Hopefully MS will address this problem a.s.a.p.
So I guess I should uninstall it, at least if will free several GBs.
Post 20 Apr 2010, 14:30
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Tyler



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I didn't even know it was out yet. Is it available in MSDN AA for all colleges, I haven't checked recently, but it wasn't there last time.

Try Code Blocks, it's pretty good. Really slow loading, but the GUI is very responsive.
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at least if will free several GBs.

Shocked Shocked Shocked I may not be getting it then... My Windows partition is only 30gb total, how many gbs are we talking?
Post 20 Apr 2010, 22:14
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TmX



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Tyler wrote:

Try Code Blocks, it's pretty good. Really slow loading, but the GUI is very responsive.


I know. Code Blocks + MinGW make a nice couple. Unfortunately it doesn't support C# and F#, which I'm interested to learn now. He he...

Tyler wrote:

Shocked Shocked Shocked I may not be getting it then... My Windows partition is only 30gb total, how many gbs are we talking?


6 point something GB Rolling Eyes
Post 21 Apr 2010, 02:41
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revolution
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TmX wrote:
6 point something GB
And you are wondering why it is slow?
Post 21 Apr 2010, 05:19
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TmX



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revolution wrote:
TmX wrote:
6 point something GB
And you are wondering why it is slow?


I think VS 2008 also takes a similar ammount of HD space, and it is much faster than 2010.

Dunno really why...
Post 21 Apr 2010, 12:00
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MS claim 1.6GHz CPU and 3GB HDD space. Liars!
Post 21 Apr 2010, 15:24
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Tyler



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My "Microsoft Visual Studio 9.0"(VS 2008) folder is 1.7gb in size. btw, what are you talking about when you say 6gb, what folder, I mean? Do you include the SDKs and other things not part of VS itself?
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3GB just to make code?
isn't it a lot too much?
Post 21 Apr 2010, 22:32
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strind



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VS2008 also has an option for ~1.5GB of offline help files...
Post 21 Apr 2010, 23:32
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Tyler wrote:
My "Microsoft Visual Studio 9.0"(VS 2008) folder is 1.7gb in size. btw, what are you talking about when you say 6gb, what folder, I mean? Do you include the SDKs and other things not part of VS itself?


6 GB is what the VS 2010 installer said before installing.
That should be VS + SDK + tools + MSDN + etc...
Post 22 Apr 2010, 07:08
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TmX wrote:
Tyler wrote:
My "Microsoft Visual Studio 9.0"(VS 2008) folder is 1.7gb in size. btw, what are you talking about when you say 6gb, what folder, I mean? Do you include the SDKs and other things not part of VS itself?


6 GB is what the VS 2010 installer said before installing.
That should be VS + SDK + tools + MSDN + etc...
Perhaps temporary space used during installation as well?

Haven't had a chance to install VS2010 yet, so can't really comment on the speed issues. I do find that WPF apps generally load a bit slowly, though, which is quite a shame - it's a pretty nice way to do GUI apps.

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shame on you all. you are talking about a pure evil product. arghhhh!
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Indeed, I've always found the best IDE (yeah right) was command-line fasm or gcc (soon to be Clang/LLVM), and (n)vi or at most leafpad/notepad. Shocked
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fasmw 1 68 is a very good IDE too Very Happy
light weight, fast and powerfull.

fasmw,
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what else?
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btw, i read from news,

Quote:
To address the growing complexity of software development, Visual Studio 2010 provides powerful tools like IntelliTrace, which is a "time machine for developers and testers".

It renders non-reproducible bugs a thing of the past by recording the application’s execution history and guaranteeing reproduction of the reported bug, enabling the tester to help squash the bug once and for all.


sounds nice !!! haven't try it yet. it seems they released already the final version of visual studio 2010.

free version here,
http://www.microsoft.com/express/downloads/
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