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ManOfSteel 19 Apr 2010, 12:04
Welcome back, Nedzad.
The editor looks good. I'm not familiar with Lazarus, so this question might seem stupid, but what widget toolkit is it (the editor) based on? Also, is it portable to other *nix systems or does it contain many linuxisms? |
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Nedzad 19 Apr 2010, 12:33
Here is first not so stable and not so functional binary !
There is 2 files in archive: config.ini // contains path to fasm executable and not yet implemented syntax file Fasl // executable for IDE Executable is compressed with UPX cause Lazarus generate large files, this IDE is 25Mb without compression. After compression its only 5Mb At the moment you cant try to compile some simple files, only compile and run button works for now. PLEASE goto Edit -> Preference first and set path to fasm executable, after that restart FasmL Please test and see if it runs on your machine ! @ManOfSteel it can run on GTK or QT on linux Thanks in advance _________________ No Signature ! |
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Nedzad 19 Apr 2010, 12:34
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revolution 19 Apr 2010, 13:14
Nedzad wrote: Executable is compressed with UPX cause Lazarus generate large files, this IDE is 25Mb without compression. After compression its only 5Mb  25MB for a simple GUI? The bloat seems worse than MS.  |
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19 Apr 2010, 13:14 |
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Nedzad 19 Apr 2010, 13:22
hehe it is
 but unfortunately i think its the simplest way to build GUI app on linux, as long as i'm aware of |
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19 Apr 2010, 13:22 |
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revolution 19 Apr 2010, 13:44
Nedzad wrote: hehe it is Is there really not a more efficient way in Linux? 25MB seems rather excessive to me. I'm not trying to criticise your efforts, I am just somewhat taken aback by the huge file size requirement for a basic GUI. |
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19 Apr 2010, 13:44 |
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Nedzad 19 Apr 2010, 14:45
Im sure there is more efficient way but this is the most easiest way ive found
and im sure with some practise it can be much more optimized, remove debug information from file and such .... |
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19 Apr 2010, 14:45 |
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ManOfSteel 19 Apr 2010, 15:56
Of course there is, revolution. My small GTK+ applications in C are all less than 10KB. In assembly they would even be a little bit smaller. Here are some examples of graphical applications using GTK+: galculator (scientific calculator, 109KB), thunar (file explorer, 490KB), leafpad (text editor, 80KB), xarchiver (archive manager, 237KB), etc.
Nedzad, you probably included debug information as you said. And the fact you say it can use both GTK+ and Qt may mean both toolkits' libraries are statically linked, and these can be quite big especially Qt. |
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19 Apr 2010, 15:56 |
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Nedzad 19 Apr 2010, 16:46
i dont know, but guys i hate you all now, ill try to make all this in C
hope till morning ill have working version |
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19 Apr 2010, 16:46 |
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kohlrak 19 Apr 2010, 17:20
Nedzad wrote: i dont know, but guys i hate you all now, ill try to make all this in C You could always try to make it entirely with 1 toolkit, for starters, and you could also dynamically link the files instead. If you're worried about saving space, dynamically linking always helps. If you need an example, i could post one for you. |
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19 Apr 2010, 17:20 |
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Nedzad 19 Apr 2010, 19:40
i got one question for you kohlrak i use glade to build GUI. ive generated XML file from glade and used gtk_builder_add_from_file. My question is, is there anyway to merge XML and binary so that it will be one single file, put it in resource section if such exist in elf ? (btw. i use C)
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19 Apr 2010, 19:40 |
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Nedzad 19 Apr 2010, 21:30
damn i never thought that glade and c is so simple
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rugxulo 19 Apr 2010, 21:54
Dynamic linking is a mess on Linux. I'll admit that static is bigger, but at least it will run anywhere without worries. I can't remember if UPX uses LZMA by default for Linux, so make sure to try "--best --lzma --all-filters".
P.S. Turn off debugging AND turn on smartlinking. (-XX or -XXs, I think.) Maybe you already did this, but I doubt it. It makes a big difference. |
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19 Apr 2010, 21:54 |
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kohlrak 19 Apr 2010, 22:07
rugxulo wrote: Dynamic linking is a mess on Linux. I'll admit that static is bigger, but at least it will run anywhere without worries. Only a small mess. It could EASILY (and reliably) be tucked away in macros, and i have done such. Quote: I can't remember if UPX uses LZMA by default for Linux, so make sure to try "--best --lzma --all-filters". What the hell are you on about? I've never had to do any of this with dynamic linking. Quote: i got one question for you kohlrak i use glade to build GUI. ive generated XML file from glade and used gtk_builder_add_from_file. My question is, is there anyway to merge XML and binary so that it will be one single file, put it in resource section if such exist in elf ? (btw. i use C) Resources in windows, AFAIK, is only a data section with a special header, name, and specially formatted data. My memory could fail me, but I don't recall such a thing on linux, not that it'd matter. The problem you're having is that the function accepts a specific file name. Therefore, your best bet is a temp file. Another function to look into (i haven't messed too much with GTK) is gtk_builder_add_from_string. That might do what you want. |
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19 Apr 2010, 22:07 |
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Nedzad 20 Apr 2010, 12:00
Done:
Open Save Run Fasm Needs to be done: Gtksourceview syntaxhighligh Syntaxhighlight file Compile error report C and GTK (UI design with glade) FYI: This is my first ever C program, i've never done anything in C or C++. I do some PHP stuff so it kinda looks similar!
_________________ No Signature ! Last edited by Nedzad on 20 Apr 2010, 12:05; edited 2 times in total |
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Nedzad 20 Apr 2010, 12:02
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It doesnt metter ill leave it in seperate file ! _________________ No Signature ! |
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20 Apr 2010, 12:02 |
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rugxulo 22 Apr 2010, 21:14
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What the hell are you on about? I've never had to do any of this with dynamic linking. [/quote] It's moot now that he's using C, but I was referring to FPC/Lazarus. |
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