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Ivan Poddubny



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Ivan Poddubny
bloglite wrote:

1 Did not have a clue nor the ability to read the directions in russian to perform your language trick so I did it myself.

2. VRR Crashes incessantly on all machines I've used it on and I did not think people needed that lack of functionality. If you had mentioned your improvements in TinyPad they would have most probably been included.

3. In our review of previous posts there is no mention of autodetection only
AUTOBOOT. Which in fact we have released and it does seem to work for most. That was the intention.

1. Sorry, i could not translate it to english. I learn french in school so my english is terrible.
2. VRR works on most VESA2.0-compatible videocards. I don't want to break my eyes by 60Hz screen refresh rate. I think others also need this VERY usable utility!
How to use VRR:
a) Run VRR.
b) Select resolution by pressing 1-4 keys on the keyboard.
c) Select refresh rate (always 1).
d) Hit Enter.
e) Wait for 5 seconds, then try to move the window.
f) Press [<] and [>] buttons to adjust screen width.
g) Close the program.
3. Sorry, I did't understand you.


Your new distro is better than the previous but it is still shitty.
Let me decribe my opinion:
1) There's a lot of out-of-date programs!
Here's the full list: (maybe I missed something?)
AIRC BOARD CDP COPY2 CPU DHCP EXAMPLE2 FASM HTTPS ICON IPC LAUNCHER MINE MP3S RB SYSTREE TETRIS
Also there are few unused files on the ramdisk.
2) Files are not sorted and ramdisk is not defragmented.

I hope you can fix it. You can take new programs from my distribution.
P.S. Click on top-right corner of the screen to configure screensaver.
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Matt



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Matt
Here is the full source package for Menuetbl.zip.


Going to work on programs for Menuet will see you soon.


Matt

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tom tobias



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Ivan, votre anglais, c'est parfait. Much enjoy your posts. Keep up the good work. regards, tom tobias Smile
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Matt



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Matt
Up till 3am last night . Here is a list of New stuff I have working so far.


1. Real fix for FAT32 drives seems to work on all machines if it will boot you will
have full hard drive support.

2. Auto detect RAM size at boot also works.

3. New menu system rocks. "Edit menu.dat with tinypad to change"
"Runs programs from harddisk or ram drive".

4. Supports starting from Menuet.img on harddrive.

5. Have found some new programs and updated ones.


All of this and more available soon ! Matt Wbshome@excite.com

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tom tobias



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Thanks for the update, Matt, looking forward to the new boot capability...regards, tom tobias Smile
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Matt



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NEW version "CZ" now available see message below.

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"CZ" version ready for download.

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Post 15 Mar 2004, 04:01
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Wishing



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This is a really nice distro. Boots up correctly... (with the getkey problem that toshiba laptops bioses seem to have).. The older version of MeOS worked fine with my HD... so im not sure exactly what it was doing on other's puters. I havea few questions about this distro:

1. Why is the source for FASM 1.51 all mussed up with the source for the kernal??? theres alot of extra wierd stuff in that directory...

2. Why does it take so long to write menuet.img and so short of a time to read from it at boot? Is there a delay in the write loop? its only a 1.4 meg file.. most HD's should be able to write it in 3-4 seconds... not 30-40

I hope you can take this as good positive criticism ^_^

Possible improvements:

At shutdown the option to save ramdisk to HD should be included as option 5.

Im not sure if this is not already supported... but MeOS should be able to support a ramdisk of ANY size. Not just 1.44 megs. That way it doesnt take so long to write to HDD, or people can use bigger things to boot from like CD's

The Jpeg viewer application crashes on my toshiba (perhaps Mikes too?) It happens when you try to move the window. possibly in the refresh code.

The paint application is sorta useless cause it has no window buffer... I guess it is a nice feature to be able to erase so easily Razz

I like how the icons are double click... but this seems to mess with the resposiveness of Menu1

When programs are started from either the menu1 or the right click menu they dont resfresh properly the first time... and you get a mishmash of window and desktop. Its refreshed easily... but you have to click around to find the dragable parts of the invisable window in order to trigger a FULL redraw.

Thats all I could find after fiddling around with it last night... Im gonna mess with it more.. see if i can find the bugs.

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Matt



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Noticed the slow writes on my PII 300mzh but very fast about 1.5 sec on the PIII and P4 2Ghz .

I didn't write the new FAT32 code but I will look to see if it can be sped up.

Old FAT32 only worked on 2 of 6 machines.
New FAT32 works on 6 of 6 machines.

Had the same background graphics problem on my laptop but the desktop machines seemed not to have the problem maybe a bug in the video driver.

The .INC files for other apps like fasm were put into the kernel zip file . guess they should have been in a seperate folder. Sorry about that one.


Thanks for the information . Matt wbshome@excite.com

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I came across this bug.. im not even sure what it is exactly... heres the situation...

I boot from floppy and then load ramdisk from floppy... everythings fine and spiffy... HD writing etc... so I write an image to the HD. It writes it fine... albeit taking awhile...
I install MeOSload.com on the HDD primary partition, and put it in autoexec.bat. I reboot without the floppy attached. It asks whether to boot menuet... i choose yes... then i pick the corect options... then i choose to boot from the HD image... so obviously it has found and read the kernal into mem. It boots up.. and runs launcher... gradient is filled in, then icons come up.. then the panel.. and then they all disapear and im left with a working mouse and the gradient background. Nothing else happens... i can hit ctr_alt_del and cpu comes up.. it shows OS idle and cpu and nothing else... the run button on the bottom of cpu doesnt load anything...
Any ideas what is causing this?
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bloglite



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Boots in 10 sec flat !

CD boot version of Menuet"EZ". NEW 5/25/04

Floppy boot maker Menuet"EZ". NEW 5/25/04

http://www.geocities.com/wemakeitbig


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Post 16 Mar 2004, 12:13
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Found the same problem early on. It's probably something left behind by DOS that conflicts with Menuet OS or improvements need to be made with Meosload.

One easy way to refresh the background screen is to hit the arrow on the bottom left of the menu bar twice.


Try the CD ISO version it boots fine to the hard disk .img file and is faster than waiting on the floppy..

Matt wbshome@excite.com
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>Found the same problem early on. It's probably something left behind by >DOS that conflicts with Menuet OS or improvements need to be made with >Meosload.

possibly

>One easy way to refresh the background screen is to hit the arrow on the >bottom left of the menu bar twice.

No... panel is not running, nothing is running... everything shuts down or crashes after launcher starts them all. the only thing that can be started is CPU. (system idle is of course running)

>Try the CD ISO version it boots fine to the hard disk .img file and is >faster than waiting on the floppy..

Toshiba portege 3010ct has no CD rom drive... Sad
it boots inside of 5 seconds from HD.. but then everything crashes. :/
I dont understand why it gets so far.. and then crashes...

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Tolle



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Tolle
Are you using the 16MB option?
I guess 16MB currently just isn't enough to start menuetos anymore...
(Since the same symtomps appear on my old 16Mb machine et my current 256Mb PC when you choose 16MB)
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This new version uses auto ram detect but when you boot from DOS with Meosload I noticed it only sees 16M before it boots.

I will work on this to see if that bug can be fixed.


Thank You Tolle !

Mattr

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bloglite
Patch is no longer required if you get the New "EZ" version.

SEE MESSAGE BELOW.


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It works great. Also it miraculously seems to have fixed the menu buggy refresh bug ^_^ though im gonna check more on that. yay, now i can boot in 5 seconds and no dumb floppy drive onna leash! Very Happy
Wishing


one note, there are sources in this distro that were coded with some odd version of FASM, PAINT.ASM and TINYPAD.ASM both hav some odd macro stuff and what looks like to be some kind of rudimentry accessor methods like window.cx and window.cy etc

This is poopy and prevents improvements!! we should all be using fasm, or at least comaptable source that will compile in FASM Razz

Who coded tinypad 3.74 for this distro, its all in russian so i cant read the programmers name, was it you Ivan? It says it will compile with FASM 1.50.. ive tried the win32 version and the one in menuet, neither work.

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[quote="Wishing"]It works great. Also it miraculously seems to have fixed the menu buggy refresh bug ^_^ though im gonna check more on that. yay, now i can boot in 5 seconds and no dumb floppy drive onna leash! Very Happy
Wishing


Yes it does Boot rather quickly from CD and HD. Also noticed the icon manager comes up in Russian. This compilation is much better. I now have a solid platform to build from.
Quite a difference from 0.75b. Excitement abounds !!

We are anxious to see what comes next , I think a slideshow program is in the works around here. Later Y'all

Matt wbshome@excite.com Cool

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Hi Everybody,

Some improvements in our "show off package" .

The floppy boot maker and .iso for burning a "bootable cd" are @

www.geocities.com/wemakeitbig

Readme file and images are zipped.

No patches are required for these distros.

They should boot to most computers and be very usable to demonstrate.

Menus have been filled with working apps.

Thanks to all and Enjoy !
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roytam1



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I want to ask that if "CZ" dist patched the kernel which listed in menuetos.org.ru.
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