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ouadji



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There is nothing what can be called "documentation of FASM macros",
not to mention "good documentation".
it's realy a pity !!!
complete informations about macros are secrets ?
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You know Irish?!?
ooops, no Wink Google translation.

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Post 08 Mar 2010, 09:39
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Tomasz Grysztar
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In texts like this one: http://board.flatassembler.net/topic.php?p=34035#34035
I explain how to derive everything from the fasm's manual. I was working on supplementary article called Understanding fasm that would do the same, but in a wider context - nevertheless even though I haven't finished it (yet?), the basic manual in general already contains the information required to deduce all those macro tricks.
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alorent



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ouadji,

I have the same feelings with macros. It's seems that only a few gurus know how to fully deal with them Wink I'm glad that they helps us Wink

btw, are you a SyserDebugger developer? I'm just telling because of your footnote image Wink
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are you a SyserDebugger developer?
no, just a fanatic user ! Wink

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ouadji wrote:
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are you a SyserDebugger developer?
no, just a fanatic user ! Wink

yeah, it was time long ago when softice ruled the universe, now syser reigns )
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there are still things to improve,
But the latest version of syser works fine.
Syser became as powerful as SoftIce, perhaps even more powerful.
i use it every day, great fun and good work with it.

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ouadji wrote:

there are still things to improve,
But the latest version of syser works fine.
Syser became as powerful as SoftIce, perhaps even more powerful.
i use it every day, great fun and good work with it.


I used it long ago but had some incompatibility issues. Hope it would work for 64-bit applications. Any news if it will work for 64-bit applications?

Anyway, we are going to get banned for going out of the topic Smile
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I used it long ago but had some incompatibility issues.
Hope it would work for 64-bit applications.
Any news if it will work for 64-bit applications?
Syser has improved considerably since its beginnings.
it has become much more stable and powerful.
But only for 32bits debugging.
Syser 64bits doesn't exist ... not yet.
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we are going to get banned for going out of the topic
it's quite possible Razz

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As for me OllyDbg has overcome IDA and Syserr!
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Syser is a kernel debugger (like SoftIce), not Olly.
(but obviously, it also works in user mode)

me, without Syser, I can't live, I die in the next hour! Razz

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User mode: Olly.
Tastes differ like "Smoking differ" text placed on a drug picture.
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"Tastes differ"
In fact, to debug drivers, a kernel debugger is essential.
Otherwise, Olly is a very good user mode debugger.

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i wonder is .net programmers know that such tools exist... or they only use built-in VS debug... tried built-in borland delphi debugger about 5 or 6 yrs ago... oh, gosh! it was a horrible experience ) i wouldn't surprise if it's written (and the whole delphi) in... delphi ))

lol! just imagine... self-compiling delphi! or self-compiling .net! muhaha
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For those who have never seen it, here is syser interface.

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Thanks ouadji. Looks a nice interface, better than Softice.

I'm been in the syser forum and seems a bit "dead"? The author doesn't seem to reply to all your questions Sad He doesn't deserve you as user! Smile
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maybe he's just got too much to be done and have no time for chatting on the board
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Sorry for my english, i will try to do my best.
The contacts are not always easy with syser developers .
it's true that for about a month I can't have answers to my questions.
In fact, I point out bugs and improvements.
They have corrected several problems since the last 6 months.
Sometimes, the contact is very easy, and sometimes it's deadly silence.
What is surprising is how few people attending this forum.
Yet, syser worth it really!
The problem is that this program is hacked a lot, it's a pity.
One day, the guy will have enough and he will discontinue this product.

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they could make it FREE software from the very beginning. and there would be no need in waiting for support for several months. development could be much quicker with the help of community
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possibly this topic should be changed to "chatting about syser" and moved to the heap already Smile
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