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Coddy41

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Coddy41 21 Jan 2009, 00:16

Must be no larger that 5kb, Must have source included. You may copyright it if you wish.

Nothing dirty, have fun. Very Happy

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21 Jan 2009, 00:16

revolution
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revolution 21 Jan 2009, 01:07

How will the winner be judged?
Who owns the source code?
Can a sample application be included?
Will any application that is included considered part of the 1.5kB?
Are there any minimum requirements that the OS must do to qualify?

21 Jan 2009, 01:07

Coddy41

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Coddy41 21 Jan 2009, 01:16

Good questions revolution here are your answers, I'll add them to the rules Wink

revolution wrote:

How will the winner be judged?

The winner will be judged by voting. (I will add a poll)

revolution wrote:

Who owns the source code?

The person who wrote the code will own it.

revolution wrote:

Can a sample application be included?

You can include all the Apps you want. Very Happy

revolution wrote:

Will any application that is included considered part of the 1.5kB?

no, but there will be a 10kb limit on the apps.

revolution wrote:

Are there any minimum requirements that the OS must do to qualify?

The only minimum Is 512 bytes there is no limit to the code size before compiled.

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21 Jan 2009, 01:16

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revolution 21 Jan 2009, 01:29

Coddy41 wrote:

revolution wrote:
How will the winner be judged?

The winner will be judged by voting..

Who gets to vote? Just the entrants or all of the fasm board members? Or other?

Coddy41 wrote:

revolution wrote:
Are there any minimum requirements that the OS must do to qualify?
The only minimum Is 512 bytes there is no limit to the code size before compiled.

I meant does the OS have to support things like keyboard input, graphics mode output, USB sticks, etc. Would you accept an "OS" that is actually just an application that uses the BIOS for I/O? Essentially, how will the OSness of a submission be judged. What makes it an OS and distinguishes it from just another small app?

21 Jan 2009, 01:29

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Coddy41 21 Jan 2009, 01:37

All off the fasam members will be able to vote, Your OS can do whatever you want you can add whatever drivers, how many if any, you can use I/O, as long as nothing in the rules are against, Do as you wish. The OS will be judged by
how much people like it, and for whatever porous they like it.

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21 Jan 2009, 01:37

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tom tobias 21 Jan 2009, 12:00

questions:
1. some rules seem both clear and logical, though imprecise. Others seem ad hoc, and unnecessarily restrictive, for example,
a. why 1.5 kilobytes?
b. why booting only from floppy, et al, but NOT HARD DRIVE????
2. languages: this is very perplexing to me. Why would anyone come to a FASM board, to advertise a contest employing C or C++? Nonsense. Either the code conforms to the FASM assembler, else, it is not a FASM contest.
3. Voting. This is a very big problem, because some members of the FASM community are not even FASM programmers, how would they identify a skillfully written program? With open registration, the door is open to voting fraud. I believe that a committee of five or seven ought to do the evaluation. I will not be volunteering to be one of those folks.
4. Perhaps you could explain your description of the "Top five OS". So far as I am aware, only DexOS uses FASM. I don't see Menuet in that list, nor Sol.

21 Jan 2009, 12:00

Coddy41

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Coddy41 21 Jan 2009, 13:23

tom tobias wrote:

questions:
1. some rules seem both clear and logical, though imprecise. Others seem ad hoc, and unnecessarily restrictive, for example,
a. why 1.5 kilobytes?
b. why booting only from floppy, et al, but NOT HARD DRIVE????
2. languages: this is very perplexing to me. Why would anyone come to a FASM board, to advertise a contest employing C or C++? Nonsense. Either the code conforms to the FASM assembler, else, it is not a FASM contest.
3. Voting. This is a very big problem, because some members of the FASM community are not even FASM programmers, how would they identify a skillfully written program? With open registration, the door is open to voting fraud. I believe that a committee of five or seven ought to do the evaluation. I will not be volunteering to be one of those folks.
4. Perhaps you could explain your description of the "Top five OS". So far as I am aware, only DexOS uses FASM. I don't see Menuet in that list, nor Sol.

Ok how many kilobytes do you recomend?
Fine if you wish to do away with C,C++ I will
When you say top 5 OS's do you meen my sig?

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21 Jan 2009, 13:23

shoorick

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shoorick 21 Jan 2009, 13:24

what a sence to fit OS into 1.5kb to load it from floppy? i could understand 2k to fit into 2716 ROM Wink

21 Jan 2009, 13:24

Coddy41

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Coddy41 21 Jan 2009, 13:29

shoorick wrote:

what a sence to fit OS into 1.5kb to load it from floppy? i could understand 2k to fit into 2716 ROM

You may use, Floppys, CDs, USBs, and umulators

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21 Jan 2009, 13:29

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revolution 21 Jan 2009, 13:31

Coddy41: Maybe 2kB to fit onto one CD sector?

BTW: I think that 4 of your top five OS's are all the same, i.e. Linux. Is it really true that those 4 Linux variants are in fact different OSes?

shoorick: 2716! Wow, now that takes one back into the dim dark ages of computing!

21 Jan 2009, 13:31

Coddy41

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Coddy41 21 Jan 2009, 13:38

New rule, max OS size 5kb, maybe?
revolution 3 of the 5 are Linux, and puppy Linux isn't even Linux based, Its built alot differently, But I'm just going by how much I like the single distro

21 Jan 2009, 13:38

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revolution 21 Jan 2009, 13:45

Coddy41 wrote:

New rule, max OS size 5kb, maybe?

Is this a negotiation? Perhaps we can all vote on the size? Hehe, just like the government, the rules are constantly changing.

Coddy41 wrote:

revolution 3 of the 5 are Linux, and puppy Linux isn't even Linux based, Its built alot differently, But I'm just going by how much I like the single distro

Maybe I can list my five most used OSes (in no particular order):

Win XP Home
Win XP Pro
Win XP Media Center
Win XP Tablet
Win XP Embedded

21 Jan 2009, 13:45

vid
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vid 21 Jan 2009, 13:50

1.5 KB is definitively a bad idea. Since we already had 512b OS, 2KB might be interesting. But I really wonder if somebody joins...

21 Jan 2009, 13:50

Coddy41

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Coddy41 21 Jan 2009, 13:53

revolution wrote:

this a negotiation? Perhaps we can all vote on the size? Hehe, just like the government, the rules are constantly changing.

Ok I'll start a poll, I dont see vista on your list, Laughing

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21 Jan 2009, 13:53

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revolution 21 Jan 2009, 13:56

Coddy41 wrote:

Ok I'll start a poll, ...

No please don't. I was just being silly (as usual).

Coddy41 wrote:

... I dont see vista on your list,

21 Jan 2009, 13:56

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shoorick 21 Jan 2009, 13:58

revolution wrote:

shoorick: 2716! Wow, now that takes one back into the dim dark ages of computing!

do you remember this? it was tested exactly with 2716 Wink

i still have enough of them Smile

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21 Jan 2009, 13:58

Coddy41

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Coddy41 21 Jan 2009, 14:00

revolution wrote:

Coddy41 wrote:
Ok I'll start a poll, ...
No please don't. I was just being silly (as usual).

opps revolution I already did http://board.flatassembler.net/topic.php?t=9710 is there a way to delete it?

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21 Jan 2009, 14:00

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revolution 21 Jan 2009, 14:05

Coddy41 wrote:

opps revolution I already did http://board.flatassembler.net/topic.php?t=9710 is there a way to delete it?

Just hit the

button. Or if somebody replies before you get to it then ask a mod to help you.

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21 Jan 2009, 14:05

Coddy41

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Coddy41 21 Jan 2009, 14:08

Ok its gone Smile

So what size should it be?

2k?
5k?
10k?
1mb?
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or um what?

21 Jan 2009, 14:08

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revolution 21 Jan 2009, 14:10

Coddy41 wrote:

Ok its gone So what size should it be?

2k?
5k?
10k?
1mb?
========================
or um what?

vid suggested 2k, I suggested 2k, shoorick suggested 2k, umm maybe you could make it 2k?

21 Jan 2009, 14:10

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