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Quant 20 Feb 2004, 22:58
Windoze users can extract .cab files with Windoze Exploder. No any extra utilities required ! Regards...
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comrade 20 Feb 2004, 23:24
ZIP...
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asmdemon 20 Feb 2004, 23:44
ZIP, almost everyone can open a zip file, plus, Who notices 30K in a download nowadays?
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20 Feb 2004, 23:44 |
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JohnFound 21 Feb 2004, 00:02
asmdemon wrote: Who notices 30K in a download nowadays? Well, the difference is about 200k actually and will grow in the future. 
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21 Feb 2004, 00:02 |
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comrade 21 Feb 2004, 00:18
How large is CAB (LZx) self-extractor? Somewhere around 4KB?
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21 Feb 2004, 00:18 |
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JohnFound 21 Feb 2004, 01:15
comrade wrote: How large is CAB (LZx) self-extractor? Somewhere around 4KB? Hm, just now I can't find free self-extract tool or any library for LZx. Only ZIP. |
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21 Feb 2004, 01:15 |
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JohnFound 21 Feb 2004, 02:27
OK, I found LGPL compressor - 7-zip. It have compression ratio almost the same (or even better) as LZX ( LHMA ) and have selfextractor. The size of the selfextractor is about 69kbytes (well, you know it is C++)
(offtopic - not related with the thread) There is 7-zip SDK, that explains algorithms, so we can try to write small library for Fresh. link: http://www.7-zip.org/ Regards. |
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21 Feb 2004, 02:27 |
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decard 21 Feb 2004, 09:50
What about NSIS? Using it with LZMA compression I created 514kb (526702 bytes) package. And it's not only self-executable, it's very powerful installation system. Maybe we could use this...
regards [edit]oh, I forgot. The installer itself is 32K overhead to the executable[/edit] |
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21 Feb 2004, 09:50 |
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JohnFound 21 Feb 2004, 13:50
decard wrote: What about NSIS? Using it with LZMA compression I created 514kb (526702 bytes) package. And it's not only self-executable, it's very powerful installation system. Maybe we could use this... It looks very good. I am studying it just now. Thank you for the idea. Regards. |
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21 Feb 2004, 13:50 |
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decard 21 Feb 2004, 13:53
I've got a script that makes simple installation for Fresh - I'm attaching it here (just change its extension from *asm to *nsi). If you want I can prepare more complex script - that will show licanse, allow you to choose which components to install, etc.
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21 Feb 2004, 13:53 |
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Yawgmoth 22 Feb 2004, 17:07
Use cab. It's the smallest, and since windows is on 90% of all comps, the most standard (tied w/Zip).
Surely Linux users can do Cab files too? |
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22 Feb 2004, 17:07 |
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sina 27 Feb 2004, 20:33
and linux users dont need fresh i think so cab is better than if its smaller
so anyone tried ace it gives good performance with solid archives with images |
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27 Feb 2004, 20:33 |
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Randall Hyde 28 Feb 2004, 05:08
JohnFound wrote:
Does it really hurt to provide the downloads in multiple formats and let the user choose which one they want? Cheers, Randy Hyde |
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28 Feb 2004, 05:08 |
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Intrinsic 01 Mar 2004, 21:54
LZX is superb. It was originally created for the Amiga back in 1995 by Data Compression Technologies. Micro$oft found out how damn good it is and paid them shit loads of money for the rights to it. Cab files are based on the LZX-2 format and i'm not sure if a decompressor is available for Linux.
DCT Homepage: [/url]http://xavprods.free.fr/lzx/[/url] Rar i think is prolly the best choice overall, available for Linux and windoze. Zip is more common though, but should have been phased out years ago. 7-Zip is also very nice, overall slightly better than rar but i've had very mixed results with sometimes it comming out worse than zip. If you want hardcore compression, check out Compressia http://www.compressia.com/ It is very(and i mean very at highest settings:) CPU intensive but does get really small file sizes but only available for windoze. |
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01 Mar 2004, 21:54 |
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Intrinsic 03 Mar 2004, 17:26
I just been doing some compression tests of the latest 1.0.1D.0 fresh distribution and here are my results from best to worse.
RAR: 459K [Best Methed, Solid Option, Advanced Compression Options: Prediction Order 63 Memory 128Mb] RAR: 465K [Best Methed, Solid Option] Compressia: 466K [Max Compression, Solid Blocks, Blocksize 15mb, English Text set] ZIP: 642K [Best method] There are some new archivers on the market, but atm they only like to handle single files at a time, but already gain about 8% over RAR and Compressia. |
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03 Mar 2004, 17:26 |
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JohnFound 03 Mar 2004, 22:34
Intrinsic wrote: I just been doing some compression tests of the latest 1.0.1D.0 fresh distribution and here are my results from best to worse. Well, maybe you use some new version of WinRar (In mine, there are not so much options) and I got not so good results. But the main problem is that RAR format is not free. I want to avoid using of commercial software at all. Compressia make very good compression but it is in early stage of developement and it is not free too. ZIP is free, but the compression rates are very bad.
So, I released the current work version in .CAB format (Using freeware utility UltimateZip). If there are no complaints from the community, I will release the next official pre-alpha versions as .CABs and after first alpha version there will be installer for official versions (probably NSIS, but I like also InnoSetup - it have really easy to use script language.) Regards. |
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03 Mar 2004, 22:34 |
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The dead 08 Mar 2004, 14:15
Try 7-zip (http://www.7-zip.org)
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08 Mar 2004, 14:15 |
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iklin 01 Apr 2004, 14:29
I think that 7-zip with his original '7z' format will be a good solution.
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