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this question is actually asked in naruto shipuudden manga.
How to break the hatred/revenge cycle.
Hatred = from jealously, unfair & mistreatment, misunderstanding.
The end product of hatred would be revenge and more hatred...

Talk bout forgiveness, is that sane for human to forgive others who have done so much damage into ur life,career,business,personal profile and etc?

As long asmore than 1 opposite values exist, i felt this world could not acquires peace.

And would inflicting pain on others help to make them suffer and thus came to appreatiate peace and realization?
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The discussion is pointless. Human nature is like that. "We" will never achieve peace. Not possible unless humans all die out.
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There are three things preventing world peace.
1) Money
2) Religion
3) Territory (resources)
Once we can live without these we will be at peace.
But it seems like it will never happen.
It is in our fate to destroy ourselfs.
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"We" will never achieve peace. Not possible unless humans all die out.

ok

in naruto shipuudden manga, naruto answered, "trust me, and i will change it"

does it sounds like obama....?????
nagota in manga, tried to inflict pain on others in order to guide human into maturity... perhaps hitler think so too?? idk.
there must be some values that someone believe that eventually make him/her a monster.
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revolution wrote:
The discussion is pointless. Human nature is like that. "We" will never achieve peace.
Well if I had infinite powers and immortality and omnipresence I could achieve world peace Razz

revolution wrote:
Not possible unless humans all die out.
Good idea

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Borsuc wrote:
Well if I had infinite powers and immortality and omnipresence I could achieve world peace Razz
Shall we all call you god? Perhaps you can change your alias again.

bidirectional ----> the_grey_beast ----> borsuc ----> god

Quite a progression.
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Who said I'm a god? I said if I had those, which I don't.
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Tomasz Grysztar has infinite powers on this board. Maybe we should call him god? Hehe.
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Who said I'm a god? I said if I had those, which I don't.

i met with a meditation guy who told me the following,

i am god, when i entered into bliss mode, i even forgot who i am, at that time, i am with god, and god be with me. (so most of the time), when you see those meditation guy suddenly said, "i am god" basically, it means, they attained the stage to be with god and god alone.

maybe someday i will reach such level. Smile
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sleepsleep wrote:
i met with a meditation guy who told me the following,

i am god, when i entered into bliss mode, i even forgot who i am, at that time, i am with god, and god be with me. (so most of the time), when you see those meditation guy suddenly said, "i am god" basically, it means, they attained the stage to be with god and god alone.

maybe someday i will reach such level. Smile
This "state" is also known a self delusion. Humans have a great capacity to convince themselves of anything if they try hard enough.

BTW: I also equate the word "faith" with the words "self delusion". Next time you read or hear someone say "just have faith and ..." think of my equate.
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Tomasz Grysztar has infinite powers on this board.

i think the guy at the fasm board hosting server got more power than tomasz Smile but, his boss might got more power, but then tomasz is customer, customer is king, which mean tomasz should have more power, but that server guy can terminate or delete this board at his wish anytime with a remote console, but then his boss might kill him ... wait,, wait... but tomasz is customer....... oh ... man ...... bad cycle...


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revolution wrote:
This "state" is also known a self delusion.
Well to be fair, that's quite a harsh and blind statement. One thing is clear though, they are happy as they claim and free of desire, so it works at least to measurable extent (you can't measure "delusion" though).

I said measurable extent because there were articles that were linked in previous threads (2008 I think or before) on this board doing brain scanning and seeing that monks during meditation are indeed happy and free of desire (the activity in the respective brain regions).

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