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drhowarddrfine



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Firefox 3 has finally surpassed Internet Explorer 7 as the most popular browser in Europe in a breakdown by version number.
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Post 01 Apr 2009, 10:54
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I think the linked article makes a fatal analysis:
The extremely high popularity of Firefox in Europe raises some questions about the validity of the European Commission's ongoing investigation of Microsoft's browser bundling tactics. Microsoft's browser is clearly not intractably entrenched in Europe, and Mozilla's success in the region demonstrates that third-party browsers can gain a strong position in the market.
This is bad reasoning with no evidence to support the conclusion. It could be that FF has a high popularity in Europe because of the European Commission's ongoing investigation. We will likely never know the real reason but certainly to draw the conclusion they did is not proper. Quite sloppy reporting on their part.
Post 01 Apr 2009, 11:09
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Yes - because of the investigation, people are more aware of the alternative browsers and tend to stumble on them more often. Maybe even stick with them.

I do agree and it is true, that FF can gain a strong position, but that was NOT what the case was about. Market share??? It isn't that simple, the bundling and tying to an OS was.
Post 01 Apr 2009, 13:06
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Well, it looks like it will end soon: IE8.1 is here folks.

Improved Security and Web Slices
Firefox Extensions Support
IE 8.1 performs better against the Acid 3 test
Fast JavaScript Engine
Multiple Browser Rendering Engine Options
Server-side code decompiler
Website Skins
So we can now all drop FF and move to IE8.1!
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I thought they didn't care about Acid3 because it was an unofficial / unfinished standard?

BTW, they haven't tried forcing IE8 on us users (yet?). But I never use it anyways unless some site doesn't like Firefox or Opera.
Post 01 Apr 2009, 13:22
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rugxulo wrote:
I thought they didn't care about Acid3 because it was an unofficial / unfinished standard?
Obviously you didn't view the linked article, else you wouldn't be saying that!
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Lame joke.
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Sorry for the false alarm. Actually though opera has some nice new features.
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revolution wrote:
Well, it looks like it will end soon: IE8.1 is here folks.

Improved Security and Web Slices
Firefox Extensions Support
IE 8.1 performs better against the Acid 3 test
Fast JavaScript Engine
Multiple Browser Rendering Engine Options
Server-side code decompiler
Website Skins
So we can now all drop FF and move to IE8.1!


Don't make an April fool of yourself. Read the comments and the author's bio.
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drhowarddrfine wrote:
Don't make an April fool of yourself. Read the comments and the author's bio.
Hehe, lighten up, it is just a little light humour. Sheesh, don't people here ever feel the need to look at the lighter side of life?
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No, I saw that first thing this morning. Some people did take it seriously on other boards.
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drhowarddrfine wrote:
Some people did take it seriously on other boards.
I guess there is no accounting for the gullibility of people. I thought that the "Server-side code decompiler" was a neat feature to have. I want it badly enough that I'm gonna download IE8.1 now and test it out.


(I had better add this, :p, just in case some gullible person thinks I am being serious about advocating IE!).
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LOL that was good one revolution, especially seeing some people taking it seriously lol (even on this board RazzRazzRazz).

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ManOfSteel



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revolution wrote:
Sorry for the false alarm. Actually though opera has some nice new features.


Hilarious!

I imagine an internaut doing his/her usual facial gestures and someone not familiar with this new feature seeing them. That someone would definitely think the internaut has Tourette syndrome or something.

And I especially liked this paragraph:
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Adult Web sites: Users visiting Web sites that contain adult content sometimes make unconscious facial expressions. If Opera keeps opening Speed Dial and Zooming In and Out, please be aware that this not a bug. It may be useful to disable Face Gestures for a better experience. Also remember that wiping your cache is recommend after visiting untrusted websites.
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Opera never misses an april 1st. It talks well about the nice and humorous approach to life. It ought to be good to work there.
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drhowarddrfine



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The developers, there, are easy going and easy to talk to. I regularly converse with three or four of them.
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and George Clooney too? How about Miguel Ferrer?
Post 02 Apr 2009, 20:15
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Don't know who he is. My son met Brian Dennehy a couple weeks ago.

These past couple years I've met and/or worked with Aaron Eckhart, Jessica Alba, Elizabeth Banks, Gerard Butler (had his cell number), Wes Bentley, Zachary Ty Bryan, John Rhys-Davies, Louis Mandylor (got a hug Smile ), John Mahoney and I know I missed a few. Almost met Amanda Peet who I'm in love with.

Some oldie but goodies: Andy Griffith, Bob Hope, George Gobel, Jimmy Dean, John Cameron Swayze, some country and rock singers, a couple Miss America's and one Playboy centerfold and I'm positive I've forgotten some there, too.
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Cool I wish I had "contacts" to get to meet some "celebrities" too...
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