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Forum has 10'000 threads now (a few of them got deleted in the past, though).
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29 Mar 2009, 05:41 

revolution
Will you posting here for the 100000th post also?
Why is it that the human population, in general, likes to make special mention of numbers that, in base ten, finish in all zeros? What about base two and the 10000000000000000th post? Or base three? Or five? Is ten fingers really so special? 

29 Mar 2009, 06:17 

vid
Logically, ten fingers should give base 11, not base 10.


29 Mar 2009, 09:24 

Tomasz Grysztar
vid, are you vulcan?


29 Mar 2009, 10:15 

revolution
vid wrote: Logically, ten fingers should give base 11, not base 10. 

29 Mar 2009, 10:23 

tom tobias
edfed wrote: ...it explains that martians are in base 69 because they have 6 hands of 9 fingers. 

30 Mar 2009, 10:37 

vid
Quote: vid, are you vulcan? Somehow I don't get the joke, probably because I never really watched Star Trek very much. Quote: That is not logical Mr. Spock Okay, so according to commonsense. And yes, I realize that reason for 10 was due to accepting base 10 prior to accepting concept to zero and all that. I just say that with current positional number system with zero, if we would want to base its base on fingers, it would seem pretty sane to me to be able to express exactly one digit on fingers, eg. 0 to 10 = base 11. If we wanted somewhat bigger range, we could use base 6 numbers one digit per each hand, which would yield 36 numbers. And of course, if we wanted max range we could use binary and have 1024 numbers, but that would be quite a fingerbreaker (and I know, I play guitar). 

30 Mar 2009, 11:33 

revolution
vid: How many fingers for you have?! Can you take a pen and write all the digits from 0 to 10[sic] with each digit on a separate finger? Last time I looked there were only 10 digits, 0 through 9.
So back to school time: Base 2: uses digits 0 through 1 Base 3: uses digits 0 through 2 . . . Base 10: uses digits 0 through 9 

30 Mar 2009, 11:40 

LocoDelAssembly
revolution, but when you count with your hand you don't use a finger to represent 0, instead you close your hand completely.
So with hands we represent 11 numbers starting from a completely closed hand (0), to a completely open hand (10). Since I believe vid means that with both hands we represent eleven numbers with a single digit then we could say that representation with two hands has a 0..A range. 

30 Mar 2009, 16:24 

bitRAKE
With binary we can count to 2^101 on the fingers  which I've taught to several children.


30 Mar 2009, 16:41 

Borsuc
LocoDelAssembly wrote: revolution, but when you count with your hand you don't use a finger to represent 0, instead you close your hand completely. _________________ Previously known as The_Grey_Beast 

30 Mar 2009, 17:21 

revolution
Borsuc wrote:


30 Mar 2009, 17:25 

Borsuc
LOL I know what you mean, but that's not counting. That's sign language. With that I think we can go as far as base 128


30 Mar 2009, 17:27 

LocoDelAssembly
Not sure but I'm sure that I haven't seen someone showing zero with one finger neither


30 Mar 2009, 17:29 

bitRAKE
Bent finger is zero and straight finger is one.


30 Mar 2009, 17:33 

revolution
bitRAKE wrote: Bent finger is zero and straight finger is one. 

30 Mar 2009, 17:36 

bitRAKE
seems much for very little hands  I'll give it a try though


30 Mar 2009, 17:42 

revolution
vid wrote: I just say that with current positional number system with zero, if we would want to base its base on fingers, it would seem pretty sane to me to be able to express exactly one digit on fingers, eg. 0 to 10 = base 11. 

03 Apr 2009, 11:50 

vid
revolution: That's how people count on fingers, or show number by hands all the time  each stretched finger is worth 1. I haven't ever seen anyone use positional system with hands. So as I said, if you want to base number of digits in positional numeric system on handshowing numbers, using 11 digits would be most logical, because that you can show exactly one digit by your hands and you never cross position boundary (as you do with 10 digits). Clear enough, I hope.
btw, I already mentioned counting to 2^101 previously, here: vid wrote: And of course, if we wanted max range we could use binary and have 1024 numbers, but that would be quite a fingerbreaker (and I know, I play guitar). 

03 Apr 2009, 12:15 

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