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baldr 04 Nov 2008, 18:01
bogdanontanu,
It's sad that you're closing that forum, but I understand your position. Holy wars are not constructive anyway. Besides, what about free-form assembler, like that: Code: u32@eax CRC32(buffer@esi, dword_count@ecx) { eax = -1; do { eax ^= [esi++]; bl = 32; do { eax >>= 1; if (CF) eax ^= 0xEDB88320; } while (--bl); } loop; eax ^= -1; } |
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bogdanontanu 04 Nov 2008, 19:07
Interesting "non standard" syntax
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vid 05 Nov 2008, 07:42
bogdan: I think that is a bit too much emotions going in. Wouldn't it be enough to just delete HLL vs. Asm offtopic, and keep supporting the standardization, which you yourself support? I think by doing this you could badly hurt the effort.
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05 Nov 2008, 07:42 |
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bogdanontanu 06 Nov 2008, 02:21
vid wrote: bogdan: I think that is a bit too much emotions going in. Wouldn't it be enough to just delete HLL vs. Asm offtopic, and keep supporting the standardization, which you yourself support? I think by doing this you could badly hurt the effort. vid, Yes, I have thought of it and this is my new proposition I made on the MASM forums. If this is acceptable then I will re open the forums for discussions: myself wrote:
_________________ "Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius -- and a lot of courage -- to move in the opposite direction." |
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06 Nov 2008, 02:21 |
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vid 06 Nov 2008, 11:07
Come on, "if they don't agree with me, they can't talk on my website"? That's pretty totalitarian, how about some plurality of opinions and some intellectual opposition, which is nescessary for everyone to advance and to correct wrong ideas?
I agree that talks about HLLs are not needed in Asm standardization topic, and can be moderated out as offtopic (not because you don't agree with them). But future of MASM is, i think, quite important to topic and should remain. So is the realistic view on current decreasing importance of assembly, because it affects target group of proposed syntax. But anyway, I doubt Agner would participate after this. |
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Endre 11 Nov 2008, 12:26
DOS386 wrote: But this won't help too far if you have C code and as long as GCC can't brew anything except AT&T gcc -S -masm=intel XYZ.c -o XYZ.s |
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KingDemon 14 Nov 2008, 11:55
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You're right about that. Assembly is supposed to be fun, remember? I don't blame anyone who doesn't remember, though. You're probably pretty old. Just think back to the first assembly programs you wrote, and you'll remember... I don't think anyone can standardize that. It's just curiosity and fun, not effort, struggle or need for attention. If you don't like something you just fix it for yourself and maybe post it somewhere online and then others might stumble on it and like it. That's how I found FASM. Nobody pushed me into using it. It just sat there and I thought it was better than MASM so I started using it. I also think Bogdan's forum should stay online if he has time to moderate it properly. Who knows? Maybe something good will come of it, but I must say I haven't visited it yet and don't intend to. Then again, I'm a noob(nobody) around here.... Cheers! |
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14 Nov 2008, 11:55 |
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DOS386 21 Nov 2008, 02:01
Endre wrote: gcc -S -masm=intel XYZ.c -o XYZ.s Thanks: http://board.flatassembler.net/topic.php?t=9454 |
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