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zhak



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zhak
what if someone uses USB keyboard and mouse? How to enable A20 then?
Post 28 Oct 2005, 15:24
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bogdanontanu



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The I8042 keyboard controller is still in somewhere inside the chipset even if the PC/Laptop has no external plug for an PS/2 mice or keyboard.

It has multiple other purposes like: A20, Speaker, Reset, etc

So you can still use it to enable the A20 gate.


As a side note: because of this, actually using an USB keyboard or mouse is kind of stupid.

The mouse an the keyboard are pretty straight forward devices that deserve a clear, fast and simple interface and resource assignments in hardware/software. USB is more generic and normally used for faster or more demanding device...

To mix the two and to share hardware registers and most important IRQs for this... is.... doh hummans Wink


For example:
1) consider that the USB has a very bad internal design even it it looks nice seen from above. Pooling instead of IRQ for data transfer and constantly feeding the PCI bus with read and write requests is at least funny ... to be nice...

2)The mouse an keyboard are also slower USB devices and no matter what they will take up cycles slots from the faster USB devices like camera or memory sticks.
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Remy Vincent



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Sure, very very complex drivers Twisted Evil Sad Cool Wink

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Post 29 Oct 2005, 01:20
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The drivers are not very complex... (they will be included in the next release of Solar OS) .

It is just a bad internal design of the USB chips and standards... The resulting stuff is sub-optimal to say at least... but looks very nice for the user o the outside Smile
Post 29 Oct 2005, 15:03
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zhak



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zhak
Ralf Brown's PORTS.A Table P0401:
Quote:

Values for keyboard controller commands (data goes to PORT 0060h):
. . .
D0h read read output port and place on PORT 0060h (see #P0405)

D0h Compaq places byte in output port in output buffer. Use this command

only when the output buffer is empty

D1h double write output port. The next byte written to PORT 0060h will

be written to the 804x output port; the original IBM AT and

many compatibles such as the OPTi 82C392 use bit 1 of the

output port to control the A20 gate.
. . .
DFh sngl enable address line A20 (HP Vectra only???)
. . .

So, as I understand to enable A20 I need to
Code:
    mov al, 0DFh
    out 64h, al
    

But in every source I was looking at I saw
Code:
    mov al, 0D1h
    out 64h, al
    mov al, 0DFh
    out 60h, al
    

What is that?

And what is the difference between the two methods of enabling A20 that
are described in 'enableA20.s' file:
method #1
Code:
    mov al, 0D0h
    out 64h, al
    in al, 60h
    push ax
    mov al, 0D1h
    out 64h, al
    pop ax
    or al, 2
    out 60h, al
    

method #2:
Code:
    mov al, 0D1h
    out 64h, al
    mov al, 0DFh
    out 60h, al
    
Post 30 Oct 2005, 17:57
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zhak



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zhak
Oups, sorry. method #2 above is correct:
Code:
mov AL, 0DFh

out 64h, AL
    


but in MenuetOS kernel I see the confusing sequence of instructions:
Code:
l.5: in      al, 0x64                ; Enable A20
        test    al, 2
        jnz     l.5
        mov     al, 0xD1
        out     0x64, al
   l.6: in      al, 0x64
        test    al, 2
        jnz     l.6
        mov     al, 0xDF
        out     0x60, al
    

Why is it so?
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