how virtual menuetOS interact with host OS?

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ProMiNick

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ProMiNick 05 Aug 2019, 10:13

Hello, Ville.
Fasm(not OS itself) for menuetOS 32 & 64 is opensource or not? would thou share it. [I found how stupid was this request: binaries could be freely extracted from image with UltraISO or similar tools. In case of binaries maked in assembly - sources are not needed, disassembly more than enought - OS part is trivial other part is opensource by definition]

One more how in thour OS to create files? or move files between virtual & host machines?

I know one very unapplcable case - create text in text editor

Code:

virtual at 0
tmp::
include 'path' ; path to fasm for example
size = $
end virtual
db 'db '
repeat size
load c byte from tmp:%-1
a=c/100
b=(c mod 100)/10
c=c mod 10
db a+'0',b+'0',c+'0',','
end repeat
db '?'

then text compiled with internal OS fasm - then print screen separatedly every piece that fit on a screen. Then OCR - then compile OCRed text back with fasm( or any assembler).
moving from host - is more painful...(or less)
In case of sending data to virtual OS from host OS we will need keyboard press emulator - it will read file in host OS in form "db ...." then setting cursor to opened text editor and play emulation sequence. then compiling in virtual OS.

So question is: When USB would be supported at level like it supported in Kolibri?
for interchanging file from host OS to virtual OS and back in way usual to all OS - by dragging files.

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05 Aug 2019, 10:13

ProMiNick

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ProMiNick 05 Aug 2019, 15:03

makes db sequence from binary

Code:

format binary as 'txt'

db 'db  '
file 'C:\FASM\fasmw.exe';:0,20
size = $-4
db size dup (0,0,0)
dollar = '$'
comma = ','
repeat size
  load c byte from size-%+4
  l = c/16
  h = c mod 16
  if h>9
    h = h + 'A' - 10
  else
    h = h + '0'
  end if
  if l>9
    l = l + 'A' - 10
  else
    l = l + '0'
  end if
  w = l+ h shl 8
  store byte dollar at (size+1-%)*4
  store word w at (size+1-%)*4+1
  store byte comma at (size+1-%)*4+3
end repeat
db '?'

rest only transfer resultive sequence between host machine & VM. and we can move files to and from menuet.
due to simplicity of menuet text editor file should be splitted on lines (may be with addition linenumbers.
But in case of transfer from real machine to menuet it is enought format. Left only find keyboard emulator.

05 Aug 2019, 15:03

ProMiNick

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ProMiNick 05 Aug 2019, 18:51

This output is more interesting ( if someone needed bintodb fasmcore interpreter algorithm):

Code:

format binary as 'txt'

dd 'db  '
offs = $
itsz = $
file 'C:\FASM\fasmw.exe':0,300
size = $-offs
db size dup (0,0,0)
dollar = '$'
comma = ','
linenums = size shr 4
dd linenums dup 0
repeat size
  idx = size-%
  row = idx shr 4
  load c byte from idx+offs
  l = c/16
  h = c mod 16
  if h>9
    h = h + 'A' - 10
  else
    h = h + '0'
  end if
  if l>9
    l = l + 'A' - 10
  else
    l = l + '0'
  end if
  w = l+ h shl 8
  store byte dollar  at (idx + row)*itsz + offs-1
  store word w       at (idx + row)*itsz + offs
  if idx mod 16 < 15
    store byte comma at (idx + row)*itsz + offs+2
  else
    store word $0A0D at (idx + row + 1)*itsz + offs-2
    store word 'db'  at (idx + row + 1)*itsz + offs
    store byte ' '   at (idx + row + 1)*itsz + offs+2
  end if
end repeat
db '?'

output is

Code:

db $4D,$5A,$80,$00,$01,$00,$00,$00,$04,$00,$10,$00,$FF,$FF,$00,$00
db $40,$01,$00,$00,$00,$00,$00,$00,$40,$00,$00,$00,$00,$00,$00,$00
db $00,$00,$00,$00,$00,$00,$00,$00,$00,$00,$00,$00,$00,$00,$00,$00
db $00,$00,$00,$00,$00,$00,$00,$00,$00,$00,$00,$00,$80,$00,$00,$00
db $0E,$1F,$BA,$0E,$00,$B4,$09,$CD,$21,$B8,$01,$4C,$CD,$21,$54,$68
db $69,$73,$20,$70,$72,$6F,$67,$72,$61,$6D,$20,$63,$61,$6E,$6E,$6F
db $74,$20,$62,$65,$20,$72,$75,$6E,$20,$69,$6E,$20,$44,$4F,$53,$20
db $6D,$6F,$64,$65,$2E,$0D,$0A,$24,$00,$00,$00,$00,$00,$00,$00,$00
db $50,$45,$00,$00,$4C,$01,$05,$00,$20,$67,$3B,$5C,$00,$00,$00,$00
db $00,$00,$00,$00,$E0,$00,$2F,$01,$0B,$01,$01,$49,$00,$2C,$02,$00
db $00,$3E,$00,$00,$00,$00,$00,$00,$DC,$08,$01,$00,$00,$C0,$00,$00
db $00,$10,$00,$00,$00,$00,$40,$00,$00,$10,$00,$00,$00,$02,$00,$00
db $01,$00,$00,$00,$00,$00,$00,$00,$04,$00,$00,$00,$00,$00,$00,$00
db $00,$40,$03,$00,$00,$04,$00,$00,$16,$CD,$02,$00,$02,$00,$00,$01
db $00,$00,$02,$00,$00,$10,$00,$00,$00,$00,$01,$00,$00,$00,$00,$00
db $00,$00,$00,$00,$10,$00,$00,$00,$00,$00,$00,$00,$00,$00,$00,$00
db $00,$00,$03,$00,$B0,$0E,$00,$00,$00,$10,$03,$00,$88,$23,$00,$00
db $00,$00,$00,$00,$00,$00,$00,$00,$00,$00,$00,$00,$00,$00,$00,$00
db $00,$00,$00,$00,$00,$00,$00,$00,$00,$00,$00,$00, ?

last symbol is always "?" that is ignored in compilation.

Code:

store byte '?' at $-1

even better then

Code:

db '?'

on thour taste.

Description:	"nu... kak to tak"it is hard to code when nonletters are on nonproper keys. but possible.
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05 Aug 2019, 18:51

ProMiNick

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ProMiNick 05 Aug 2019, 23:47

this post and its attachments were stupid. reason placed in square brackets in 1st post of this topic.

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05 Aug 2019, 23:47

Ville

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Ville 06 Aug 2019, 11:05

You can also move files between the host and Menuet using the internet connection (like ftp).

06 Aug 2019, 11:05

ProMiNick

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ProMiNick 06 Aug 2019, 14:02

Ville, I not among happy owners of network cards that compatibable with menuet. (or additional setup needed). In case of Kolibri I set up network as bridge - and all work out of the box.
maybe for menuet needed additional setup.

Thou not answered on half of question: can thou share fasm (menuet port) - there is no needance to keep it closed (and so ancient version) - it could be evolved with mainstream OS variations.
And as thou see I almost explore way how menuet interact with host. That is open way to write programs in convinient environment (OS windows fo ex.) then transfer to menuet and can see what programm act and what to fix. Because developing in menuet itself (text editing) - is a bit painfull.

06 Aug 2019, 14:02

Ville

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Posts: 303

Ville 06 Aug 2019, 15:14

I'm talking about the network card in the virtual machine. You can connect to the virtual machine running Menuet from the host operating system using ftp, while Menuet is running the ftp server.

06 Aug 2019, 15:14

ProMiNick

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ProMiNick 06 Aug 2019, 16:11

I never use VMWare from this side. I should setup something in VMware itself & in menuet & in ftp client for connection? Is any instruction?
Or it is simpler to do in VBox?

06 Aug 2019, 16:11

Ville

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Posts: 303

Ville 06 Aug 2019, 17:36

In the screenshot Im running Menuet inside Virtualbox v.5.0.0. and connecting to Menuet ftp server with Win7 command prompt. In VB, I'm using Intel pro/1000 virtual network card with bridged adapter setup.

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06 Aug 2019, 17:36

ProMiNick

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ProMiNick 06 Aug 2019, 18:58

Looks like menuet not friends with VMware.

Looks like my WinXP64 don`t friend with VirtualBox 4 to 6 versions

Description:	for start I tryed to use kolibri with ftp client.I remember settings - and shutdown it
Filesize:	153.19 KB
Viewed:	16661 Time(s)

Description:	then I reproduce working settings in menuet.closing active connection. reopening it.and....... and nothing
Filesize:	128.16 KB
Viewed:	16661 Time(s)

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06 Aug 2019, 18:58

MHajduk

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MHajduk 06 Aug 2019, 20:42

ProMiNick wrote:

Looks like menuet not friends with VMware.

Have you tried to use shared folders in VMware Player? It works to me in case of FreeDOS (I enable shared folders only if I really need to copy some files between the host and the virtual machine, normally I disable it).

These two pictures may illustrate the way it can be done:

06 Aug 2019, 20:42

ProMiNick

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ProMiNick 06 Aug 2019, 21:39

Villy, I look but not seen answer in front of my nose, but now everything more than enought to stark work on it.
Thanks.

06 Aug 2019, 21:39

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