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if you code a simulation game,
what would you code first,

the egg with code how it grows, make love, have eggs, and eggs turn to new small chicken?

or
fully function chicken, code it make loves, then have eggs, then eggs turn to new chicken?

i think, i will code egg first,

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the egg doesn't even need to be "live" when you code it,

please open up your notepad.exe or anything that equivalent,
code something there, create a few objects, nothing die =)

if you code it, you would know how to make it live without incubated, nothing weird & strange,

of course, this whole thing will not make sense if you reject the idea that whole thing are designed, coded, matrix,

Well, I'd say that at the beginning was hydrogen following the book by Hoimar von Ditfurth under the same title:

Hoimar von Ditfurth, Im Anfang war der Wasserstoff, 1972

just one thought came in,

what is the color that first light up in a traffic light? red, green or yellow,

this chicken and egg thing is just like traffic light,

it doesnt important which come first.

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Actually that last state you show is not undefined. Indeed it is well defined and all logic circuits will give predictable and stable outputs. The only problem with R=S=1 is that it is unknown which state will be next if both fall to zero simultaneously. Of course in the real world (TM) slight differences in the manufacturing process will be present and one state will be preferred over another due to variations in the physical atomic structures.

lots of F*** i see here, right now i am laughing my As** off:D one of the best threads i have ever come across, keep up its fun:LOL

from the evolution point of view, bacteria / micro-animals came first, so i think the yes THE:LOL egg came first

if its from the Bible than it will be the chicken coz God created man / Adam in his own image

i am out of here, i need to learn FASM:)

Being neither a bible thumper nor a devil worshipping terrorist I cannot distinguish between creationalism and evolutionism. It's not a war between God and Darwin, but a battle with our own ignorance that blinds us from the truth.

If there's a God and it's as smart as it should be, it would be able to create an organism such as a chicken or human capable of evolving in order to survive and flourish. Going forth and being fruitful is not a religeous one-liner nor is it the property of scientific minded individuals, but it is a truth and an easily observable one that applies to everything that has ever existed and changed.

Chickens lay eggs that hatch yielding new chickens repeating the process - eggs do not lay chickens, but are exo-uterus, biological devices that have adapted to increase the odds that a chicken will be delivered. Looks like a static loop using libraries or devices to perform a constant function.

Typedef has potty mouth too (what's up with the F-bomb)! Was that random?

Correction. It's typedef not Typedef. And this thread is fucking old man. (Oops !! F-bomb)

the egg
cuz

Still fun and inspirational - hence no shelf life applies and blame the spell checker.

This thread just made my day.

Speaking seriously, all living things now are the fruit of life evolution that started from tiny living cells that were created first (perhaps by just creating one living cell!).

In fact, the existence of my human living flesh started from 'one' tiny living cell (which was generated from combining 'two independent' ones). This cell had to evolve for about 9 months (a fast replica of millions of years of evolution) to end up being the little human baby I was

Obviously, the learning ability of the humans in the far past was somehow like of kids. And as parents try to find suitable stories for their kids to explain their birth for example, Heaven has addressed the 'kids of humanity' with the Adam/Eve story to introduce the idea of Creation. This wasn't a lie unless my teachers at school used to tell me, while I was a kid, lies though claimed being scientific truths.

Here is one example:
They told me first: "Two straights are said parallel if they don't intersect."
But this is wrong. So, later, they updated it and added: "... and are on the same plane".
Also this was somehow incomplete while learning advanced geometry.
So its most updated version becomes:
Two straights are said parallel if they INTERSECT at infinity.

Fortunately, my school teachers didn't mind telling me something incomplete; otherwise my fresh brain had to also search the location of infinity to understand parallelism

I mean; Adam & Eve story and many other stories addressed to the kids of humanity were VERY important; as my school books were when I was a kid, but now they are just good souvenirs of my childhood.

Conclusion:
The question of this thread has no concrete answer due to the 'very slow' evolution (relative to our days) of the today's living things (species) during too many millions of years.

I can't write BIOS code for a mobo without first having my computer already up and running.

I can't run my computer without first having BIOS code in the mobo.

So which came first?

OMG there can't be any first, they are interdependent upon each other. Therefore they have been around forever and have existed since the beginning of time.

that's right, cous', the EGG .

for the love of God, revō, the very word is onomatopoetic

either one is truth, so gentlemen, place your bet now,