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MichaelH 09 Apr 2008, 23:05
OK I'm willing to concede fodder is not the only reason the fasm community projects have dwindled to next to nothing.
Tomasz not being so active these days is probably a cause. Another reason maybe the never ending newbies that come here expecting people to jump to their every request while criticizing fasm about thing they say it doesn't do when all along if they just read the manuals they'd realise just what a pain in the arse they are being to everyone. However, I'd suggest fodder and the other's who post constant negative posts about fasm and assembler in general are indeed the reason why projects are few and far between these days. So support their efforts if you wish but I don't see your support of such negativity as helping anyone in the long run. |
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AlexP 10 Apr 2008, 00:15
edfed & revolution: I mean a FASM compression macro, like the cute 'xor crypting macro', except it's a compressor
 . I haven't any clue for ideas, maybe a decompressor is called before a function call during execution. That would be odd. |
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10 Apr 2008, 00:15 |
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revolution 10 Apr 2008, 00:27
I wonder if a mod would be kind enough to split this into two topics.
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10 Apr 2008, 00:27 |
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edfed 10 Apr 2008, 00:37
 revolution as moderator! |
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10 Apr 2008, 00:37 |
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AlexP 10 Apr 2008, 00:54
Quote: revolution as moderator! |
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10 Apr 2008, 00:54 |
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edfed 10 Apr 2008, 01:11
AlexP:
impossible, you cannot ask to become moderator. this is the absolute democraty, people decide to give you the state of mod, you cannot decide it, here, it is not the french or USA government. asking to become president or depute is not a proof of ability. |
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10 Apr 2008, 01:11 |
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AlexP 10 Apr 2008, 01:21
It was a joke, I do not wish to be moderator
. I'm still a beginner in ASM anyways, maybe someday I can be in the competition.
Check what I found on Winasm.community whatever site, main members list has f0dder: Quote:
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10 Apr 2008, 01:21 |
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Remy Vincent 10 Apr 2008, 03:08
Quote: ... диплом один на 10 человек, мой раздел - криптографические ключи... How a moderator can read german language, then english language. What if FASM coders starting to speak african languages impossible to moderate... WHAT i would like to say is that it is easier to WRITE than to read. So a moderator could have so many threads to read that he would prefer to write 100% of the threads and then moderate his own writing, instead of having to read all the threads he is the suposed to be moderator... So good luck to moderators having to read hundreds and hundreds of threads instead of writing themself all the discussions of their threads! |
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10 Apr 2008, 03:08 |
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dosin 10 Apr 2008, 03:10
For now on: all arguments must be written in asm...
It will help the creative proc.....
I neither except nor deny the allegations before me |
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10 Apr 2008, 03:10 |
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AlexP 10 Apr 2008, 03:14
Quote: So a moderator could have so many threads to read that he would prefer to write 100% of the threads and then moderate his own writing, instead of having to read all the threads he is the suposed to be moderator... So good luck to moderators having to read hundreds and hundreds of threads instead of writing themself all the discussions of their threads! |
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10 Apr 2008, 03:14 |
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revolution 10 Apr 2008, 08:41
AlexP wrote: edfed & revolution: I mean a FASM compression macro, like the cute 'xor crypting macro', except it's a compressor |
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10 Apr 2008, 08:41 |
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f0dder 10 Apr 2008, 11:01
AlexP wrote: Check what I found on Winasm.community whatever site, main members list has f0dder:
revolution wrote: I wonder if a mod would be kind enough to split this into two topics.  _________________  - carpe noctem |
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10 Apr 2008, 11:01 |
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AlexP 10 Apr 2008, 13:43
Hmm... Revolution for moderator!
I have solidified my next project as being an assembler source compressor, hybrid between a dictionary (instructions?), a technique for compressing the most common english letters, and simple ASCII shrinkage through dictionary for other words. I would love for a partner on a project for once, any takers? |
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10 Apr 2008, 13:43 |
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revolution 10 Apr 2008, 14:46
AlexP wrote: Hmm... Revolution for moderator! AlexP wrote: I have solidified my next project as being an assembler source compressor, hybrid between a dictionary (instructions?), a technique for compressing the most common english letters, and simple ASCII shrinkage through dictionary for other words. I would love for a partner on a project for once, any takers? |
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10 Apr 2008, 14:46 |
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edfed 10 Apr 2008, 14:48
yep.
always ok for new challenges. it seems to be very usefull for my own projects. and the best manner to learn something is to do it. revolution , before to make some ready to use an pro codes, we shall make them just like prototypes. your knowledge about asm will be very usefull to make the projects becoming pro and usefull for end users. |
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10 Apr 2008, 14:48 |
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AlexP 10 Apr 2008, 20:51
Well, it is meant for any assembler source (or any files in general, but meant for ASM). I have decided to make it a library only, and it will use hybrid techniques that I will plan out. I have VERY good ideas, and would love for someone to join me!
PS: It could be made as a plug-in to all major assemblers, when they save a file to HDD it would automatically compress it/ decompress . That would be a great feature! |
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10 Apr 2008, 20:51 |
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daniel.lewis 11 Apr 2008, 00:51
You're looking at it the wrong way. Trying to get a vast number of assemblers to hook your library would be more challenging than writing it. Getting compression to/from the HD is something that should be part of the filesystem. I like Reiser4's implementation. For assembler, I suggest identifying and binding to an executable analysis program; and manipulating a given executable binary so that it's compressed etc. There are already six dozen such programs out though. 
There are also binary obfuscators, flat disassemblers (which suck), static linkers and all sorts of neat things. Such tools are definitely useful, yes. I've been wanting to make a disassembler to a control-flow-tree. From there, optimization would be easy. _________________ dd 0x90909090 ; problem solved. |
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11 Apr 2008, 00:51 |
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bitRAKE 11 Apr 2008, 01:31
How about an interactive re-assembler with AI? (I can dream...)
_________________ ¯\(°_o)/¯ “languages are not safe - uses can be” Bjarne Stroustrup |
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11 Apr 2008, 01:31 |
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AlexP 11 Apr 2008, 01:43
daniel: It was just a suggestion as to how it could be used in the wild, wow! I would probably NOT be the one to do anything practical with it, like in FASM or something, I'll leave that to others.
I do have my AES code working, (MUCH faster than my other), and I'll post it. It's been ported to Linux/Win32, and I would LOVE for anybody to beta-test it. I included a driver program, so all you need to do is run the .exe under Win32. |
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