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JohnFound



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Is it possible to create (using dialog templates) control that are not child of main dialog window but of some of other dialog childrens. For example:

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Dialog box have 2 children:
  "Static" some kind of text.
  "Button" BS_GROUP, that have 3 children:
       "Button" BS_AUTORADIOBUTTON
       "Button" BS_AUTORADIOBUTTON
       "Button" BS_AUTORADIOBUTTON
    


I don't know how I am clear. But I hope - enough.
Post 04 Jul 2003, 07:01
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Betov



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I really don't know, but i suppose that this is impossible, as long as there is no record for indicating such organisations inside the Dialog components Records.

This may be done by runing Sub-Dialogs at Run-Time.


Betov.


By the way, John, under what License are you developing this?
Post 04 Jul 2003, 08:43
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JohnFound



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Hi Betov.

After reading all possible help files, I think that this is imposible too, but with 1 little exception. If you define group box aftersome radio buttons. The radio buttons becomes one group. Actually they are not childs of defined group box. If then some other radio buttons are defined (after first group box) they becomes another group. This makes my work easy, but less powerfull. Sad Smile

I am thinking about some workaround. Question Question Question

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By the way, John, under what License are you developing this?


Actually I still don't know. Why you think this is important? It will be freeware with open source, I think (or donationware - unfortunately my budget is not very good at this moment Sad ) In any case it will not be shareware or nagware.
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Betov



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Not "important", but why i ask the question is because i see you re-inventing SpAsm and going to do a lot of work that has already be done. Under GPL, things that may be possibly re-usable save a lot of time.

I already proposed this to Thomasz a long time ago: SpAsm Dialog Editor, with very few added work, may output what is needed for FASM, and even if you don't like this Editor, there are a lot of Data and infos directely reusable, inside... Well... under GPL... Wink (for example, the complete management of the various Flag conflicts and requirements -in the ExcludedBits and MustHaveBits Tables -that other Dialogs Editors do not have usually-, plus Help system, and so on...).


Betov.
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JohnFound wrote:
Betov wrote:
By the way, John, under what License are you developing this?


Actually I still don't know. Why you think this is important? It will be freeware with open source, I think (or donationware - unfortunately my budget is not very good at this moment Sad ) In any case it will not be shareware or nagware.

Why not use the the fasm license as base/template and make som modifications to it to siute you? (I think it's okay with privalov).

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JohnFound



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scientica wrote:
Why not use the the fasm license as base/template and make som modifications to it to siute you? (I think it's okay with privalov).


Hm. I am not read the FASM license word by word, but I think there are some obscurity about who belongs the rights for the modified versions of the FASM. I am absolutely agree that rights for FASM core and compiler at all belongs to Privalov - he is the only author of FASM. But what about modified versions, and programs that uses FASM engine as part of the application, not as external tool. I think that Privalov is the only man who can answer this questions.

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John Found
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JohnFound



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Betov wrote:
Not "important", but why i ask the question is because i see you re-inventing SpAsm and going to do a lot of work that has already be done. Under GPL, things that may be possibly re-usable save a lot of time.

I already proposed this to Thomasz a long time ago: SpAsm Dialog Editor, with very few added work, may output what is needed for FASM, and even if you don't like this Editor, there are a lot of Data and infos directely reusable, inside... Well... under GPL... Wink (for example, the complete management of the various Flag conflicts and requirements -in the ExcludedBits and MustHaveBits Tables -that other Dialogs Editors do not have usually-, plus Help system, and so on...).

Betov.


I am reinventing the wheel almost all the time. Very Happy IMO this is the half of the pleasure of programming. Very Happy Actually I am intending to re-invent not SpAsm, but Delphi, only just for assembler. Very HappyVery HappyVery Happy
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scientica
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JohnFound wrote:
I think there are some obscurity about who belongs the rights for the modified versions of the FASM.

I'm not talking about the license of the fasm cutomisations, the changes are to be blamed on the modifer, but the credits goes to Privalov Very Happy

I'm speaking of taking the license and modifying it, thus modifying it to something like this:
Code:
FooBar XP version 1.47
Copyright (c) 1879-1901, Ty Coon.
All rights reserved.

This program is free for commercial and non-commercial use as long as
the following conditions are aheared to.

Copyright remains Ty Coon and as such any Copyright notices
in the code are not to be removed.

Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without
modification, are permitted provided that the following conditions are
met:

1. Redistributions of source code must retain the above copyright notice,
   this list of conditions and the following disclaimer.
2. Redistributions in binary form must reproduce the above copyright
   notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer in the
   documentation and/or other materials provided with the distribution.
3. You may NOT use this software for spamming purposes, unless the
   purpose is to stop, limit or counter act spamming.

THIS SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED BY THE COPYRIGHT HOLDERS AND CONTRIBUTORS
"AS IS" AND ANY EXPRESS OR IMPLIED WARRANTIES, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED
TO, THE IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A
PARTICULAR PURPOSE ARE DISCLAIMED. IN NO EVENT SHALL THE REGENTS OR
CONTRIBUTORS BE LIABLE FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL,
EXEMPLARY, OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES (INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO,
PROCUREMENT OF SUBSTITUTE GOODS OR SERVICES; LOSS OF USE, DATA, OR
PROFITS; OR BUSINESS INTERRUPTION) HOWEVER CAUSED AND ON ANY THEORY OF
LIABILITY, WHETHER IN CONTRACT, STRICT LIABILITY, OR TORT (INCLUDING
NEGLIGENCE OR OTHERWISE) ARISING IN ANY WAY OUT OF THE USE OF THIS
SOFTWARE, EVEN IF ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGE.

The licence and distribution terms for any publically available
version or derivative of this code cannot be changed. i.e. this code
cannot simply be copied and put under another distribution licence
(including the GNU Public Licence).
    

(anti spam useage added, and name/date changed, ...)

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Betov



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This is nothing but what i am doing... Go luck to you, and, again, if under GPL, i, and SpAsm are there to help, not to compete Very Happy

Please, think twice of the License, this is important for the life length of your work, and there is no contradiction between GPL, and asking users for money donations (though, don't hope that much, in any case Very Happy )...


Betov.
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Licenses are for bastard capistalists. Mad

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Betov



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Thanks for the so intelligent remark, comrade... Sad

John, even if you are not interrested with my offer (i have nothing to sell...), as long as you are going to re-do all the things i have already done, and even if you prefer working for nope under Thomasz License than under GPL, for some reason that i ignore, -and, surely, that i will never undertand, even if you explain me slowly Wink -, i will remain available for the help i can provide and for the various Data, knowledges and Infos i have collected.


Betov.
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comrade wrote:
Licenses are for bastard capistalists. Mad

Laughing Laughing Laughing

We live in a such world to day, the captial of capitalism is controling the world (via more or less acceptable methods) Crying or Very sad


Seriously, licenses make it possible to phrohibit capitalistic usage, by the capitalistic rules Razz

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If I remember right who ever holds the copyright can change the license from what ever to what ever. It can't be Ex Postfacto tho' so if you have a copy of the work under GPL even if the copyright holder changes the license to some proprietary license you can still use the GPL'ed copy. As always you should talk with a lawyer.

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