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sylwek32



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sylwek32
Hello FASMers,
I am starting a Operating System Development Team Competition for all FASM ,C and other Assembly Language. I will give over 10-15GB of Space on a Server on a 100MBIT line , with a Webinterface , Team Management System and a CVS and Project Tracking System. If somebody wants to join the Project Netbone as a Programmer os as a helper, you can post it on this forum. If you have some suggestions, please send them to me.It´s a non-profit Project for all Users.If the OS would be finished, it would be available for downloading at Sourceforge and other Big sites. My role in this Project is Server Administration, User Administration and Graphics and Sound Design.I have expirience in Graphical Design and in Sound Design so i can help later if you want to program a OS or a Program with a GUI. I can make a GUI for an other program of the Fasm users on this Forum. You only need to ask.

I hope you are interested in this Project and i hope
we will begin in short time.
Maybe i will get more servers later, if we need more space..
I think, 200-350GB Traffic are enought for the Beginning.
But i can get a lot more.. ~2TB ~3TB Smile
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vid
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anyone reacted? or is this alive?
i still feel we should rename/move thread somehow...
Post 08 Sep 2006, 08:54
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sylwek32



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is alive. nobody reacted.. please convert to announce! @vid
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hmmm, didn't you post two threads like this? this could also go to OS-DEV...

do you want to announce in OS-dev, Main, or here (i don't think this thread is good place)?
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AdamMarquis



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Hi

Glad to come back to the FASM Forum, an old time favorite!! I did post part of the (supposedly for ARM7 and up) AHA forth system, before it was finished. I think it only begins but still (menuet?!) is a 50% system idea completed, subject of odd sector settled, hactars makes me dream, ventureforth also.

Now it boasts (imagine it does; you could've read "It, the code, begs for") CDROM Packet Access (in the atapi spec i refeerenced, up to DVD Read access, (nowhere else than linux:?) USB keyboard and examples of (marvelous NATIVELY multi-)mouse driving code (whoa sorry for the last phrasing) and network card access. An optimal and I mean optimal language/solution ia clearly under's one sight right now, which 99% of the time is simply the simplest while most efficient language possible, clearly following the implementation (fabrication process' a factor) of the underlying hardware.

What one's need for a dream OS is a parallel port capacitive keyboard, on top of a normal cable between the printer and the host, if need be. Or just homemade using aluminium foil or PCB traces and pads like ByteCraft.

A CAD program, like Charles H. Moore a créé for his VLSI/ "ultrafeedback" development effort, but working up to a PCB scale outside the main circuit. The perfect, silent computer, with embedded atenna parabolic foil antenna, perhaps rectifying radioactive traces at real time for some 80 years perhaps, depending on the isotope's energy outburst?

+-, push pull, the best way to transmit powe, look the now free Borderlands Research Videos on video.google.com, the longitudinal transmission line model, capacitive linking with included inductor/?coherent?accelerator (almost means?Really Fast?) phase wave transmission effect going at inverse of speed..... At least, mroe concretely, look at the avramenko patent, at Constantinesco's "Sonics", and you will understand, now we only need to understand the Ripping Cut.

Hmmm let's change things, okay this time? let's post about modified routers, withh invisible capacitives touchpads added, piece of wire with aluminium foil soldered to the board and placed on the inner plastic shell with the needed remodeled firmware inside. A complete computer, with vnc, can be constructed. With efficient applications, it would mean THE END for many falsehoods on this world, yep that large in span.

i'll go for now, just to keep up here, look at my posted stuff in OS dev part of forum, point me to yours if you don't mind, I'm very curious and willing to improve upon the already done work to finally achieve something, before the 14th of October,so that I could wrap it and show how kids(/total newbies) need to be first told (taught) about computers.

Adam
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f0dder



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O_o
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HyperVista



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@vid - i think we've found your THC candidate.
Post 26 Sep 2006, 10:30
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vid
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must be something stronger... Wink

f0dder: there you have it, about not posting 3 times in a row Razz
Post 26 Sep 2006, 10:57
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smiddy



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vid wrote:
must be something stronger... Wink

f0dder: there you have it, about not posting 3 times in a row Razz


I want some, I need to become sooo unfocused! Wink
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vid
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i did some moderating with that post to separate different topics, so you can better read it Wink
Post 30 Sep 2006, 23:22
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dazzit



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dazzit
How alive is this now nearly nine months later?
I've been messing around with operating system development for some time now but it's really too big a project for one person to support all the hardware out there.
I'm starting to think in the general direction of reflective programming (as in dynamically compiling/assembling as the OS loads).
A few months back I developed something I called the flat system which was vanilla fasm using a modified version of TinyCC (by Fabrice Bellard) for 'C' and back end linking of modules and CodeBlocks as an IDE. I had to modify TCC as it kept padding out the start of pure binary files with dynamic linker crap. However I can't find the source for it. It would have been nice to have had somewhere to put it and get some kind of peer opinion on certain concepts.
The idea was to actually have a very quick assembler and compiler actually within the kernel by using core code from FASM and TCC.
Any takers?
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haha, this thread was fun.

good old times...
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f0dder



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dazzit: perhaps you should look at cc386? Last I looked at it, it had source code and did NASM output. Perhaps it's not too hard adapting it for FASM output?
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dazzit



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I think the biggie with TCC for me was the way that the linker was integrated into the compiler and the speed. The downside of course being the awfully inneficient (redundant) code output.
This thread probably belongs in the HLA topic anyway but it's an old old argument over which compiler is best at what and there's no ideal solution. The same goes over which IDE. I'd like to see some additons to PN2 for instance.
My current project is concentrating on buying a bar at the moment anyway.
I'll keep people posted as to whether I actualy manage to get the money to do it. I've already been ripped off once.
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Cool is the offer still open ? can we talk on this ?

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hckr83



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Guessing not?
Post 07 Jun 2007, 18:52
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vid
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removing "announcement" status of thread
Post 08 Jun 2007, 10:56
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edfed



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this contest can become simpler.
what about a simple boot server contest?
something able to boot and directlly browse on the net?

not exactlly a contest, a corporation would be better, we are not concurents.
trying to participate on a big project together can be great no?

if you are interrested, the goal is to boot in less than 1 second and directlly login this board.

no size limit for the system, HLL accepted (at least, compilable with fasm), but the ONE second post-boot operability is an obligation.
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LocoDelAssembly
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Quote:

if you are interrested, the goal is to boot in less than 1 second and directlly login this board.

A too severe constraint I'm afraid, especially if it includes the login process. Even not taking into account the time to read the program from persistent memory is still severe contraint, all the involved hardware can't be initialized that fast, a 5 to 10 seconds constraint would be a more sane to pursuit.
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Octavio



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LocoDelAssembly wrote:
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if you are interrested, the goal is to boot in less than 1 second and directlly login this board.

A too severe constraint I'm afraid, especially if it includes the login process. Even not taking into account the time to read the program from persistent memory is still severe contraint, all the involved hardware can't be initialized that fast, a 5 to 10 seconds constraint would be a more sane to pursuit.

doing it in one second (after the bios) is not the problem,most hardware can be detected and configured in miliseconds. The problem is just to write
the code.
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