they trying to make Open Watcom 2.0 c/c++ a meme but the c/c++ compilers in visual studio 2010 can create microsoft grade ml64.exe amd64 & ias.exe itanium 2 assembly language listings and source codes (and generate debug symbols for respective machines) on immediate compile and it will be counter intuitive to not use the feature since learning and writing in assembly language is the holy grail..

and the point? it's funny that the older software is wayyyy too advanced than the thing that they're trying to blowup..

and the random number generator of pelles c caps on a single number when i tested that decades ago....

Who is "they"?

the windows 98 assembly language forumers and probably some of the current "actors" in the we-all-know-already scene...

Where is the discussion? Link?

/masm32.com/Hardware & Software Corner..

caution: if you hangout or read for sometime in any thread of that site, an orange "Loading.." on overhead of your browser will popup on your browser which routes to an xmlhttp page call..

Nope.

Sometime, you just need to refresh a few times to go thru (did not try).

I recently tried ML64 -- awful.
And it is supposed to be 'modern' Assembler.