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Coty



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virus problem

Nortan AV says there are security issues on this site:

http://safeweb.norton.com/report/show?url=http:%2F%2Fboard.flatassembler.net%2Findex.php&product=other&version=2013.1.0.32&layout=Retail&lang=0901



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Viruses (what's this?)
Threats found: 1
Here is a complete list: (for more information about a specific threat, click on the Threat Name below)
Threat Name: Trojan.Gen.2
Location: http://flatassembler.net/examples/cmd.zip




Maybe something for Tomasz or another mod to look into...

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Post 05 Mar 2013, 17:43
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AsmGuru62



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My AV did not say anything - I used the CMD.EXE from that ZIP just now.
Most likely false positive from Norton AV.
Post 05 Mar 2013, 17:48
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Coty



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Yeah, i'd imagine so nortan is not the best ever AV, I'm only using it because I got a really good deal on it... But just something to look into since it gives a link for the site owner, maybe to make an apeal or something, so as not to scare people away...

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revolution
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Oh ... yet another useless AV reporting a problem. Just don't use AVs and then the problem is solved. IMO AVs are more trouble than they are worth.
Post 07 Mar 2013, 07:43
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sinsi



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Trojan.Gen.2 is a generic detection


"We are really lazy, so here's our best guess"

My Yahoo email is "protected" by Norton, lets things through (tested by emailing myself a known virus).
Post 07 Mar 2013, 08:46
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Coty



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Well considering ALLOT of people actually trust Norton, what is the first thing they are going to see when they visit this site?


revolution wrote:
Oh ... yet another useless AV reporting a problem. Just don't use AVs and then the problem is solved. IMO AVs are more trouble than they are worth.



I don't have any troubles with them, I install them, every now and then they keep my PC from the flu, all I have to do is pay a little money every now and then.

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revolution
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Coty wrote:
... and then they keep my PC from the flu ...

Probably not actually. None of the AVs picked up on any of the latest batch of malware going around. It was only after the event that all the AV vendors added detection code. Shutting the barn door after the horse has bolted.

Coty wrote:
... all I have to do is pay a little money every now and then.

I wonder if it is money well spent, or simply wasted in an effort to provide a false sense of security?
Post 11 Mar 2013, 00:48
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Coty



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You can't expect it to be perfect, and you can't expect it to be one step above crackers. If I were to write a virus, I would make sure it would slip past AV... And it would until the AV was patched... But the loop hole would have to be exploited enough before it was noticed.

At the very least, It protects me from most virus's. Considering I need this machine to handle many things, I'll take all the extra hands I can get.

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machinecoder



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I have NEVER written a program that can pass all virus scanners (AVAST)

If you write a program and scan it with a multi scan like "avast" at least one of the scanners will report a false positive

use anti-virus software but use your wits to make a final decision as those virus scanners are as "dum as mud" !

I purchased my laptop 8 years ago, brought it home. First job delete pain-in-butt anti virus software. After 8 years and hundreds of hours online I scanned my computer, result= no threats found ! How= dont visit porn sites, dont use free software (unless very well known and trusted eg FASM) and dont run cracks.

Obviously this site doesnt have a virus attached so now you know the author of Norton-AV is thick as pig sh!t, a newbie will impressed with Norton-AV finding the virus in this site and will happily pay for the next release.

dont rely on AV, when a picture of a clown pops up on your desktop, and a message says "boo" then you have a positive virus hit, otherwise you are safe!
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baldr



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machinecoder,

Real virus won't pop up and say "boo!", it'll rip your card account and cease to exist without you being noticed. Wink
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bitRAKE



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I have more problems with software I installed than virii. Why does my printer and UPS need a tray icon? It seems every piece of software thinks my computer is their own private playground. This kind of marketing crap pervades the industry. If one were to weigh the actual features they provide against the unused/non-features they inflict then clearly Norton AV would be classified as a virus.
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baldr



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bitRAKE,

Don't tell me about UPS software. The way they rape serial port makes me feel guilty of some perversion.
Post 07 Apr 2013, 21:55
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DOS386



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Re: virus problem


Coty wrote:
Nortan AV says there are security issues on this site:
Location: http://flatassembler.net/examples/cmd.zip
Maybe something for Tomasz or another mod to look into...



Maybe you could look into the Main FAQ http://board.flatassembler.net/topic.php?t=2530 with already 16 viral threads ... or get my virus http://board.flatassembler.net/topic.php?t=15272 Very Happy
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machinecoder wrote:
How= dont visit porn sites, dont use free software (unless very well known and trusted eg FASM) and dont run cracks.

I think the first suggestion there can be generalised to any site:

Don't run JS, Java, Flash or any other remotely generated code intended for your browser to run.

If some stupid site that is necessary for you (like a bank) requires JS to work then use something like NoScript and allow JS only in that situation. But still the best solution is to write to your bank and tell them to stop making you less secure by requiring you run JS.

A browser running remote code (any code no matter if a script or flash etc.) is the main problem with infections these days.
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HaHaAnonymous



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Stupid post removed.


Last edited by HaHaAnonymous on 28 Feb 2015, 21:05; edited 1 time in total
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DOS386



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machinecoder wrote:
How= dont visit porn sites, dont use free software (unless very well known and trusted eg FASM) and dont run cracks.



Maybe you meant DO USE ONLY FREE SOFTWARE ??? (at least you made an exception for FASM ...)


revolution wrote:
Don't run JS, Java, Flash or any other remotely generated code intended for your browser to run.

If some stupid site that is necessary for you (like a bank) requires JS to work then use something like NoScript and allow JS only in that situation. But still the best solution is to write to your bank and tell them to stop making you less secure by requiring you run JS.



Exactly Smile

> Some use scripts that works only if you are running Internet Explorer

Some pages do "support multiple browsers" ... list usually looks like this:

* IE 12, 11, 10
* Chrome 999, 998. 997
* Firefox 20, 19, 18

Anything else (Firefox 17, Opera, Dillo, Arachne, ...) is rejected "we don't support your browser". This is maybe less bad than "IE only" but it's still bad. Sure they use JS to check browser version. Not only they don't know that IE isn't a browser at all, they don't even know how internet is supposed to work (support efficient and widely accepted web standards, rather than support single browser versions).
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sinsi



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I visit plenty of porn sites, dodgy ASM fora*, torrent sites and never get infected. For long.
Virtual machines are the way to go.

*not fasm, masm32 or asmcommunity
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