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JohnFound



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uart777, your font looks blurred because of the antialiasing and this way will provide you with very high eye weariness only after 5..6 hours of work, regardless of the display resolution.
Show me this font with antialiasing off, and I will tell you is it "the best" or not.
Post 24 Oct 2012, 13:23
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AsmGuru62



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Monospaced it is then.

btw, all your fonts are no better than my font!
Just kidding, but seriously, I used a lot of monospaced fonts and the best one is: "Lucida Sans Typewriter". 10,11,12 points.

Excellent font for coding.

And uart777: thanks for great info on typefacing.
Very detailed.


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uart777



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revolution: I understand. Sorry for the confusion. We're only speaking from our perspectives. As an artist, my opinion is that CODE2 looks "best" on most high-resolution displays (XGA+). Search for "relativism". Again, I think consolas is the best standard font for programming.

Guru: Good font Smile You seem to understand art so much. Do you have a girl who does art?


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uart777



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JohnFound: When you were in Rome, Italy, did you see the Pantheon? That's my reflection Smile People like me created that. Pantheon is the greatest work of art in history.
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JohnFound



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uart777,
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uart777



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JohnFound: What about it? What's the meaning of it? You like to joke with me Smile JohnFound is a jokester Smile
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JohnFound



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Try to meditate on this picture and try to find the relation with the editor fonts.
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farrier



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Another excellent monospace font I use:

http://www.donationcoder.com/Software/Jibz/Dina/

Made by Jørgen Ibsen = Jibz

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JohnFound



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Dina is good, but has very ugly "A".
Proggy square is better IMHO.
And of course "Fresh" fonts. Very Happy

But recently I am looking for Unicode fonts of this type and there are only antialiased fonts...
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uart777



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farrier: Dina is ok but only for low resolutions (< SVGA, 800x600).

JohnFound: Did you see the Pantheon when you were in Italy? Isn't it beautiful? Communism makes good programmers Smile Why do you see anti-aliasing as absolutely "evil"?


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JohnFound



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uart777 wrote:
JohnFound: Did you see the Pantheon when you were in Italy? Isn't it beautiful?



No, I didn't. It was business trip in small town near Milan. But I saw it on pictures. And actually I don't like it very much - pile of old stones. Wink

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uart777



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JohnFound: What?! Pantheon is the greatest work of art! It inspired all of our designs today. But I agree with the statements in your Fresh IDE comments: Understand your HL features/macros, know what they produce/output.
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JohnFound



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I am not sure what "our" means. But it does not inspire my designs. Smile
From Italian art I like Leonardo da Vinci. He is like me, engineer. And like me, he has no single project finished. Very Happy
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uart777



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Mr. Found: Love Da Vinci too, he's a natural engineer just like me. He invented the airplane. Here's what I presented to Microsoft when they were talking about making a game system in the late 90s: Image
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uart777



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Leonardo Da Vinci did so much for mankind! Smile


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uart777



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Ok, I'm an idiot. From now on, no more coming to forums while completely drunk and on legal prescription medications :/

Now that I'm straight, please allow me to answer properly. Reason for blurriness on your display is because mine was set on low brightness when font was designed. Higher brightness shows a much softer edge. I have all of our favorite standard fonts in bitmap format - fixedsys, terminal, courier - with a hard edge. If anyone needs portable fonts, just ask. Thanks.

PS: As for best font, not just my opinion. Consolas is almost always #1 on top font lists. It may be best for GUI programmers.
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uart777



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Advantages of bitmap/raster fonts: Portable (BIOS, Vesa, Menuet, etc), redistributable, consistent (exact size, no substitutes). Advantage of storing them this way: Easy for artists to create/edit, preview in explorer, 95 standard symbols, glyph size = image.w / 95, height is same, no file format needed (.fnt), faster drawing side by side instead of graph.

Consolas is considered the best programming font but its not free. Microsoft has (C) and not sure what restrictions are. So, I made a similar font (code1-5) but I didn't realize that my display was on a lower brightness with harder edges. I could make another with hard edges but it takes time. A better way would be to CreateFont/Indirect then ouput .bmp file.
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AsmGuru62



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Strange -- I just got that Consolas font pack from Microsoft download center.
They did not ask me for any money.

P.S. I do not like the Consolas - maybe because I use Clear Type and I can see the
corners of all letters as single pixels -- not very good.
I switched back to "Lucida Sans Typewriter,11".
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uart777



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That's a NICE font, Guru62! Sharp edges. Just noticed that it's vector based so is re-sizable higher resolutions unlike FixedSys and the old Courier
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shutdownall



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AsmGuru62 wrote:
Monospaced it is then.

btw, all your fonts are no better than my font!
Just kidding, but seriously, I used a lot of monospaced fonts and the best one is: "Lucida Sans Typewriter". 10,11,12 points.

Excellent font for coding.

And uart777: thanks for great info on typefacing.
Very detailed.



I like your font, AsmGuru. Very Happy

Image

I need a special font with some custom graphic characters.
What is the easiest way to use a custom font or better to customize a standard font with own characters/graphics ?

So like this below.
And how to get it used by FASMW - IDE ?


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