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ctl3d32



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Hi,

Does anyone know any assembly language programming tool for android, or if it is possible at all.

Thanks,
ctl3d32
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i think fasm for linux would works? if x86? or arm....
Post 04 Jun 2011, 13:46
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Tyler



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Do you mean an assembler that assembles for ARM, such as FASMARM, or an assembler that runs on ARM?
Post 04 Jun 2011, 19:17
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ctl3d32



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I would like to make some apps for Android in assembly language, but i think it's not possible yet. I think it's necessary to use the Android NDK (Native Development Kit), but it's still limited in many ways.
Post 04 Jun 2011, 23:57
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asmhack



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Correct, you will need eclipse, java and ndk.
Post 05 Jun 2011, 00:46
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ctl3d32



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I hate java
Post 05 Jun 2011, 00:55
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asmhack



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What android apps still doesn't exist btw ?
Post 05 Jun 2011, 01:09
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Gunner



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asmhack wrote:
Correct, you will need eclipse, java and ndk.


Is it not possible to build Android apps in asm? I have searched high and low and only found references to the above...
Post 05 Jun 2011, 02:33
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TmX



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Gunner wrote:


Is it not possible to build Android apps in asm? I have searched high and low and only found references to the above...


I never tried myself, but I guess it's possible. You can find several examples on the internet on using NDK or ARM GCC to build native codes.

Now I wonder how to build Android GUI apps, like Twitter or Facebook, using asm Rolling Eyes

On the other side, probably I'd prefer Maemo for assembly coding, because it's basically just plain Linux, without VM (Dalvik) like Android.
Post 05 Jun 2011, 05:57
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TmX wrote:


On the other side, probably I'd prefer Maemo for assembly coding, because it's basically just plain Linux, without VM (Dalvik) like Android.


There are a very few phones using maemo. Nokia N900 and its not selled anymore.
It never was popular enough. Really dont now why, becouse it was realised the same time as Milestone.. and it preaty much similar in the outside look and both have 600mhz cpu. The main diference is nokia is maemo, and milestone android xD
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TmX



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Enko wrote:

There are a very few phones using maemo. Nokia N900 and its not selled anymore.
It never was popular enough. Really dont now why, becouse it was realised the same time as Milestone.. and it preaty much similar in the outside look and both have 600mhz cpu. The main diference is nokia is maemo, and milestone android xD


Maemo is practically a single fighter (Nokia), while Android is backed up by big names like Samsung, HTC, Motorola, Sony Ericsson, etc.

I guess that's why...
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Tycho



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Starting January this year it's possible to write programs in C/C++ for android, so it won't be impossible to write an android programs in ASM. However, when running a program made in C on android it's still being executed on java VM (at least, if I understand androids blog). Since I personally make programs in assembly because of faster execution I suggest to start in Java (Since running Java on Java VM seems faster than running native code on Java VM).

Quote: "Of course, access to the regular Android API still requires Dalvik, and the VM is still present in native applications, operating behind the scenes." (http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2011/01/gingerbread-ndk-awesomeness.html)
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addes3



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You could always program in Java ByteCode. It's kinda assembly :/
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typedef



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addes3 wrote:
You could always program in Java ByteCode. It's kinda assembly :/


Rolling Eyes
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asmhack wrote:
What android apps still doesn't exist btw ?

Mobile Bathroom App
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asmhack wrote:
What android apps still doesn't exist btw ?

mobile assembly programming IDE with compiler, self compilable.

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ctl3d32



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edfed wrote:
asmhack wrote:
What android apps still doesn't exist btw ?

mobile assembly programming IDE with compiler, self compilable.


That would be perfect
Post 18 Oct 2011, 17:04
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Dex4u



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Read this blog, it tells you how to code android apps in asm
http://www.eggwall.com/2011/09/android-arm-assembly-device-set-up-part.html
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kalambong



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edfed wrote:
asmhack wrote:
What android apps still doesn't exist btw ?

mobile assembly programming IDE with compiler, self compilable.



.... using FASM !!
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Coty



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typedef wrote:
addes3 wrote:
You could always program in Java ByteCode. It's kinda assembly :/


Rolling Eyes

At least bytecode is eisier to read then java it's self Rolling Eyes

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