Is there a way to tap into the power of GPUs?

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kalambong

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kalambong 08 Dec 2009, 10:40

Refer to this page : http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/graphics/ati-radeon-hd-5000/hd-5870/Pages/ati-radeon-hd-5870-specifications.aspx

# Processing power (single precision): 2.72 TeraFLOPS
# Processing power (double precision): 544 GigaFLOPS

See the above?

I like to know if there is a way to tap into the power of GPUs.

Any suggestion / opinion is welcome !

08 Dec 2009, 10:40

f0dder

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f0dder 08 Dec 2009, 11:29

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CUDA
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenCL

never played with either myself, though.

08 Dec 2009, 11:29

kohlrak

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kohlrak 08 Dec 2009, 19:26

Unfortunately, it's hard to do directly without writing your own drivers and without there being a standard (ugh) without you, once again, writing your own drivers or your own kernel, because the only standards (vga, vesa, vbe etc) are all protected from the third ring (where your code at in most OSes). So, you're stuck with whatever library is used on the system you're using (usually it's safe to go with OpenGL, but i wish there was something a little better than that).

08 Dec 2009, 19:26

f0dder

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f0dder 08 Dec 2009, 19:34

kohlrak: look above - remark the C, not G Smile

08 Dec 2009, 19:34

Borsuc

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Borsuc 08 Dec 2009, 19:37

I wonder, does there exist an assembler for OpenCL binaries?

BTW you still need a driver for the CPU to send info to the GPU to inform it what to process.

08 Dec 2009, 19:37

kohlrak

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kohlrak 08 Dec 2009, 19:44

Ah sorry, small misunderstanding. Laughing

08 Dec 2009, 19:44

kalambong

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kalambong 09 Dec 2009, 09:55

Borsuc wrote:

I wonder, does there exist an assembler for OpenCL binaries?

BTW you still need a driver for the CPU to send info to the GPU to inform it what to process.

aren't there enough reversed engineer direct-x stuffs available out there that can be used?

hmm.....

09 Dec 2009, 09:55

f0dder

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f0dder 09 Dec 2009, 10:02

kalambong wrote:

Borsuc wrote:
I wonder, does there exist an assembler for OpenCL binaries?

BTW you still need a driver for the CPU to send info to the GPU to inform it what to process.
aren't there enough reversed engineer direct-x stuffs available out there that can be used?

hmm.....

Why bother when you have CUDA and OpenCL and DX11 DirectCompute?

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09 Dec 2009, 10:02

Borsuc

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Borsuc 09 Dec 2009, 20:54

f0dder wrote:

Why bother when you have CUDA and OpenCL and DX11 DirectCompute?

because I want to see the GPU instructions?

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09 Dec 2009, 20:54

kalambong

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kalambong 13 Dec 2009, 09:10

Borsuc wrote:

f0dder wrote:
Why bother when you have CUDA and OpenCL and DX11 DirectCompute?
because I want to see the GPU instructions?

I second that !

With the instructions and registers made available, maybe there will be a version of flatasm for all ATI GPUs in the future, who knows?

13 Dec 2009, 09:10

sinsi

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sinsi 13 Dec 2009, 09:57

Well, AMD released 'R700-Family_Instruction_Set_Architecture.pdf' in March.

13 Dec 2009, 09:57

kalambong

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kalambong 19 Dec 2009, 11:40

Thank you, Sinsi, for the link.

I happen to locate other links that may help decipher the innards of the GPUs:

http://www.x.org/docs/AMD/R6xx_R7xx_3D.pdf

http://ati.amd.com/developer/open_gpu_documentation.html

http://www.x.org/docs/AMD/R6xx_3D_Registers.pdf

http://cgit.freedesktop.org/~mhopf/AtomDis/

http://developer.amd.com/gpu_assets/R700-Family_Instruction_Set_Architecture.pdf

http://developer.amd.com/gpu/ATIStreamSDK/Pages/default.aspx

http://developer.amd.com/GPU/Pages/default.aspx

19 Dec 2009, 11:40

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