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fasm9



Joined: 19 Jun 2003
Posts: 439
Hi, total 312 guys.(exclude LeXTeRiTY_X: today joiner)
312/904 = 34.51%

All of them are zero poster, some are bot, some are kid, some are poe.
The innocent are rarely.

maksa
jcfuller
Dougie
x86asmer
hj_18
yrret
dipu
DyC
juven
Zippy
wildtollut
bigrichlegend
Uzume
topchip
Marat56
Damba
booksiberia
roaknog
jma
PxP2k
neworbits
NewCoder
Kl&am
scronty
Magi
db7363
matey
andrew
Higher_Typer
Falconer
silas
relick
bushpilot
rwishlaw
Jurgen
prunde
MaxX
Godness
ih
charlie
Megaborsti
gxl117
nelix
Brasil
Skylight
Escape
Bigg
sombra
jklmkr
borabora
oacy28
George_Bray
Agentx
ensein
infester
Fiodor
belesiu
El Tangas
imike
Jnrz
zotin
shico
Zenturio
ldljlzw
graebel
mesh321
Despero
free2000fly
tachion
kekkeri
lmv
simon
missy111
Mothwings
elix09
BigLew862005
uglykee
Usman
binho2tr
philohugues
Perry
cyberops
VBcoder
scruffy
manhattan
sorlag
acko
cx01
codemaster
Hexen
Ripside
stanks
marlyn
wolverrum
dr0
DominiqueB
Beyond2000!
Scarmatil
Sergioni
bulywiff
framework
Alpha[66]
packetvb
nikita
neverending
blago
jv
cykotic
emil
rotfeast
Kubaz
M@X
ozg
Odysseyss
blackshark
Raidu
Almir_Oliveira
vicky_jam
b0z0_
Mahdi
NEMO
Daniel
Edschurr
xanatose
anbu
Petroizki
yeohhs
dafredricks
nafanya
stoby
RaptuGava
unforgiving
tpmaha
Window(s)Keeper
saltmakrell (redundant)
rhump01
Heathen
mountainm5
bbsjunky
traisno1
egyptpike6932
Nothoro
kmicinski
xHAWKx
synergz
ktappe
ralphsmole
ahwb
jaalyn
fallen_prep
Jiro-san
Aritec
oneweb
hotcat
jonny2x4
Arkan
Zach Schutters
suavemonkeyboy
luke9511
Asterix
Damir
Robert
Birdie
spj
arnt
HASO
InquisiteMind
zhaobohui
Jallu
k155la3
jeannack
oveja
4x9
Esteban Torre
hm80
sergioserina
omega_red
Zack Boarman
Mormo
Embar
Vaddamus
suji
semiconboy
luckystar
Kosto
olli
JB
Phonica
captain cobalt
farmer
Neo
dRag0nMa
k0nsl
mag
PekkisM65
AlexX
Thomas
timo
emmeti99
218
zss
Nickolay
Neunhauer
lovelyboy
zyfwh
NTA
cngsoft
JaDs
hesebalem
thmendes
-=KIV=-
Hordi
Anubis
pw4ever
ramblincode
chloe
- abser -
donny_bl
bcosials
- aadora -
azra3L
- amar -
yangmin26
tomz
- aabb -
ivanich
-abal-
- abarm -
cully
- acara -
!! abahar !!
- abased -
!!!aaa!!!
ledonpc
Esteban E. Torre.
- aamdas -
maurice_chavez
- alarol -
!!!acb!!!
Esteban Eduardo Torre
Jomppa
!! cacer !!
Teerayroot
-alser-
-aacemw-
!! acsas !!
Cpilot
!! ambarad !!
John
!! bembu !!
! asoliu !
! Hulio !
- asaber -
Jose
Marazm
Vasya
Dudikov
AnubisDev
Stranger from Kharkiv
ALLY
StarVn
dan
dumplex
! amrios !
!! asa !!
(! ferary !)
!! aquiro!!
! ferty !
! avare !
!! alalk !!
! avax !
!acario!
!!abulo!!
lunchbox
Black iCE
AarzaK
Knowink
eNeON
open-asm
Styx
echnaton
Cheddar Jedi
marcchabot
breno
abe
franz79
Kinex
nexuzz
TechiKo
vsp
relentless
CryingFreeWolf
DoC
razor
bogrus
DEMON84
d.j.peters
SpyDir
DWord
AxelDominatoR
Same
Four-F
dude77
UkrainianLady
Zed_0xff
dShell
darshu
Gallacktik
rod
sand_man
sick
Desseres83


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Post 23 Aug 2004, 02:34
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Imagist



Joined: 13 Jun 2004
Posts: 114
Location: Pennsylvania (USA)
The obvious bots should be deleted. By this I mean:

gxl117
jklmkr
ldljlzw
k155la3
zyfwh
-=KIV=-
- abser -
- aadora -
- amar -
- aabb -
-abal-
- abarm -
- acara -
!! abahar !!
- abased -
!!!aaa!!!
- aamdas -
- alarol -
!!!acb!!!
!! cacer !!
-alser-
-aacemw-
!! acsas !!
!! ambarad !!
!! bembu !!
! asoliu !
! Hulio !
- asaber -
! amrios !
!! asa !!
(! ferary !)
!! aquiro!!
! ferty !
! avare !
!! alalk !!
! avax !
!acario!
!!abulo!!

All obvious bots.

To avoid the getting bots, you can add a thingy in the sign up area that requires you to enter a few letters from a picture.
Post 23 Aug 2004, 03:49
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vbVeryBeginner



Joined: 15 Aug 2004
Posts: 885
Location: \\world\asia\malaysia
how about the idea to automatically delete those account which didn't sign in within one month.
Post 23 Aug 2004, 11:44
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roticv



Joined: 19 Jun 2003
Posts: 374
Location: Singapore
Not a good idea. I do know quite a few of the people on the list.
Post 23 Aug 2004, 12:04
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Tomasz Grysztar
Assembly Artist


Joined: 16 Jun 2003
Posts: 6994
Location: Kraków, Poland
I've added visual confirmation to the registration process. But I see no method to surely determine who of the already registered users is a bot.
Post 23 Aug 2004, 14:16
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vbVeryBeginner



Joined: 15 Aug 2004
Posts: 885
Location: \\world\asia\malaysia
i just happened to got ONE i think is quite creative idea :p

how about the idea, the user got to wait for 2 minutes before pressing the submit sign up button? (might put a javascript counter there to notify them) and make that submit button enabled after 2 minute.

when the user came to the sign up page, we will add a registration date/time information in his session ID, the reg date/time will be recorded in our database, once the user submit their registration form, we will minus the new time with the recorded time. if more than 2 minutes, we could quite sure that, that guy is a human, else, it might be a bot.

for those submission which come before 2 minutes, system will regards it as bot. (and trace them perhaps and report to their ISP)

i guess it is logic for those user to fill the sign up form in 2 minutes or more. could put some information there regarding FASM, sort of introduction to them Smile

one of the problem now is, the bot might be programmed to send sign up info interval at 2 minutes Sad

anyway, this idea could limit the damage the bot would causes, it only be able to auto create 1 account in 2 minutes, 30 account in 1 hour.

some board use activation link to activate user account, but imo, the bot might host it own email server :S, so might not work also.

the board should (PM or email) the admin, once it detects strange flow, example like, 15 sign ups in half hour, <- compare to ordinary half hourly statistic maybe is 1 to 2.

i hope somebody will implement this idea, hopefully this helps Smile

sincerely,
vbVeryBeginner d(^-^)b
http://sulaiman.thefreebizhost.com
Post 23 Aug 2004, 16:58
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vbVeryBeginner



Joined: 15 Aug 2004
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one more creative idea,
how about the user must post 1 message in particular thread (in Test Area perhaps or named a new Area => Signed Up Verification) after he/she signs up Smile

the procedure is like this,
after the user submit their registration info, web server will direct him to a page with a instruction eg.

eg. a. copy the title of this window and post it in VERIFICATION FORUM -> thread named TITLE

eg. b. check the sign up joined date of privalov and post it in the VERIFCATION FORUM thread AGE

eg. c. check the current posted message of vbVeryBeginner, and post it to the VERIFICATION FORUM thread POSTNUMBER. answer could be plus minus 0 to 5 Smile

could create one page that enable the user to change activation question, if they think, it is hard.

so, the 1st thread, the user post, must be in VERIFICATION FORUM.
so, the VERIFICATION FORUM will be coded specially to handle such task, check the answer , if correct then grant fully account activation Smile

sincerely,
vbVeryBeginner Wink
Post 23 Aug 2004, 17:18
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Tomasz Grysztar
Assembly Artist


Joined: 16 Jun 2003
Posts: 6994
Location: Kraków, Poland
The problem is not to detect bot during the registration process, I believe the visual confirmation is enough for this purpose. The problem is to check which users are bots from the ones that registered before this confirmation was activated.
Post 23 Aug 2004, 17:20
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vbVeryBeginner



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how about making a thread and ask people to post something there.
can verify other people whom they know, like what roticv might do.
Post 23 Aug 2004, 17:30
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coconut



Joined: 02 Apr 2004
Posts: 326
Location: usa
delete all old non-posters (more than 60 days?), if theyre legit theyll simply recreate a new account
Post 23 Aug 2004, 17:36
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vid
Verbosity in development


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Posts: 7109
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yes, and send them e-mail week before deleting, and if they answer don't delete them.
Post 23 Aug 2004, 19:43
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vbVeryBeginner



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quality or quantity?
sometime, it is kinda hard to seek the balance.
Post 24 Aug 2004, 04:39
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scientica
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Joined: 16 Jun 2003
Posts: 689
Location: Linköping, Sweden
I don't understand why any one (registered) would live as a lurker for life... I though one signed up to at least make one post, for lukring it's enougth just enter iste and browse Smile
(maybe it could be that 0 posters who hasn't been to the forum for the past 6 months could be purged) (iirc phpBB holds last time of visit for all users, shouldn't be hard to make an SQL query, post_count=0 and last_visit = now - 6 month, or something like that)
Post 24 Aug 2004, 13:22
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Tomasz Grysztar
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Posts: 6994
Location: Kraków, Poland
Being able to download attachments might also be a reason for registering, but right now this board allows downloading as a guest, too.

Such purging is an easy task, I'm just still not sure whether it's really necessary, I have already removed all the users with logins that was looking no doubt like a bots.
Post 24 Aug 2004, 13:54
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Imagist



Joined: 13 Jun 2004
Posts: 114
Location: Pennsylvania (USA)
We also have a double account in there; one of these two can be deleted;

Esteban E. Torre.
Esteban Eduardo Torre
Post 24 Aug 2004, 18:32
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k0nsl



Joined: 07 Apr 2004
Posts: 1
Location: germany
I saw my name on that list. Don't delete me Smile

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vbVeryBeginner



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Laughing
Post 03 Oct 2004, 15:49
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Matrix



Joined: 04 Sep 2004
Posts: 1171
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Smile
hy all,
Privalov just told me there is a thread about this,

you can't make someone post for example 10 posts per month,
what for if it is needent?

those posters should be deleted who have not posted any posts 3 months after sign up - this won't hurt anybody, and there is a little chance of nicks to free up in particular cases.

as for the sign ups - have you ever seen a user sign up verification?
take a look @ http://yahoo.com click on the mail and sign up for a free account
another example:
http://aim.com
try AOL instant messenger

@signup time the best is to give the user a randomly selected picture and let the user tell what's on the picture,
like guZuuz46584 and lotsof noise - better to be random

be creative
show them a picture of a snail
and ask what is it
Smile

write a program for that if someone wants to flood flatassembler database
Post 19 Oct 2004, 13:58
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Tomasz Grysztar
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Joined: 16 Jun 2003
Posts: 6994
Location: Kraków, Poland
The sign up verification is already working here.
Post 19 Oct 2004, 14:07
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THEWizardGenius



Joined: 14 Jan 2005
Posts: 382
Location: California, USA
I don't know if two months is enough- what if someone goes on vacation? I'd say that people who don't post for four months (what's the use of having an account if you don't post, since you can view threads without logging in?) or so is almost definitely either a bot or a "forever lurker" or someone who doesn't even remember joining FASM, and can therefore be deleted.

About lurkers: I lurked for maybe a month or two before I actually joined. If people intend to lurk, why create an account? But even if they do, if you lurk for 4 months that's way too long IMHO. So delete 'em!
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