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Do we need Wikipedia?
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guignol



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There has to be an elaborate article in Wikipedia on fasmg.
As well as fasm and fasmarm.
These will cover the basics of assembly programming either.
Post 20 Feb 2019, 21:36
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revolution
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Sure. Why not. But it needs people that can write.

Any volunteers?
Post 20 Feb 2019, 21:42
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guignol



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Did you not write fasmarm?
(when is going to be an update?)
Post 20 Feb 2019, 21:52
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Writing code and writing an English article are different things.

Do you use fasmarm? What update do you need?
Post 20 Feb 2019, 21:58
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ProMiNick



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Why an English?
we will read thour article with google translate from any existing language.
Post 20 Feb 2019, 22:36
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Articles writing in any language is not easy. I have much respect for those people that can do it.
Post 21 Feb 2019, 06:00
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ProMiNick



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I tryed to make it(separatedly fasm & fasm language I mean) on russion. It more complete then english one but much things are missed or somewhere I maked wrong assumptions due to my little knowledges.
Post 21 Feb 2019, 07:46
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Tomasz Grysztar
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In general I do not hesitate to edit Wikipedia when I feel I can improve its quality, like it was in case of unreal mode.

However, I refrain from writing articles concerning fasm or fasmg directly, concerned that it could constitute a conflict of interest. A general guideline is:
Wikipedia wrote:
Do not edit articles about yourself, your family or friends, your organization, your clients, or your competitors.
And I prefer to be on a safe side.
Post 21 Feb 2019, 10:11
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guignol



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fasm or fasmg is exactly not yourself, not your family or friend, not an organization, a client or a competitor.

Where did I miss this that Google can translate?
Post 21 Feb 2019, 10:59
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guignol



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And even by your miscomprehension, you can still write about FASMARM, as some critical acclaim on the fork (of your work).
Post 21 Feb 2019, 11:03
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Tomasz Grysztar
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While not a registered organization, it is still an entity directly and unequivocally related to me, moreover there is a channel for donations related to the project and I am the single recipient.

Therefore I believe that conflict of interest is on the table, even if a subject to interpretation. To be on a safe side, I simply try to avoid getting to a stage when such interpretation would need to be formally resolved.
Post 21 Feb 2019, 11:06
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Tomasz Grysztar
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guignol wrote:
And even by your miscomprehension, you can still write about FASMARM, as some critical acclaim on the fork (of your work).
I do not feel competent to write about FASMARM, I would need to research it a bit more first.
Post 21 Feb 2019, 11:08
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guignol



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Tomasz Grysztar wrote:
guignol wrote:
And even by your miscomprehension, you can still write about FASMARM, as some critical acclaim on the fork (of your work).
I do not feel competent to write about FASMARM, I would need to research it a bit more first.
Why, a start will make the edit (even of your own).
Post 21 Feb 2019, 11:20
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Tomasz Grysztar
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By the way, in the light of COI rules, should I consider NASM a competition? In a plain sense of the word it certainly is one, in a legal sense - maybe not. But I would argue that for Wikipedia all that matters is that there would clearly be a bias on my side, and for this reason I would never edit any article about NASM either.

Still, if anyone else tried to write something for Wikipedia, they could reference the articles written by me, like my introduction to fasmg. I try to provide a quotable material here and there, in hope that it would make it easier for others to describe my projects. My article about multi-pass assembly is another example.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest#How_to_handle_conflicts_of_interest

There is a process. Perhaps you are over-cautious? I would suggest if you think your advocacy is COI, then it might be advantageous to state that directly in the article comment section as to heighten transparency and alleviate any malice. In time your concern will subside - I am certain.
Post 21 Feb 2019, 14:52
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Tomasz Grysztar
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Yeah, surely there might a process that would allow to get this discussed, interpreted and resolved by people responsible for this kind of decisions. But should I want to invest my time in that, still not sure about possible resolution? Literally anyone else could edit these articles without any such concern needing to be resolved.
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