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Furs



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Very cool, hope it will be affordable in 10-20 years. Sad
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A young mind is more important than a young body ... maybe.

Youthful plasticity restored to brains of adult mice
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/08/170808145956.htm

Wink
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YONG wrote:
A young mind is more important than a young body ... maybe.

Not "maybe" but absolutely, unless the body is like 90+, cause then you have real issues. Confused Hopefully we'll either stop (or even reverse) aging soon or at least have affordable robot replacements for most body functions (except brain).
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YONG wrote:
A young mind is more important than a young body ... maybe.

Youthful plasticity restored to brains of adult mice
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/08/170808145956.htm

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Like the rest of the body, the brain loses flexibility with age, impacting the ability to learn, remember, and adapt. Now, scientists report they can rejuvenate the plasticity of the mouse brain, specifically in the visual cortex. The study shows that manipulating a single gene triggers the shift, revealing it as a target for new treatments to recover the brain's youthful potential.



worth to try probably, not sure how complex is it to manipulate single gene, Embarassed
Post 09 Aug 2017, 22:12
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Scientists are one step closer to finding cures for neurodegenerative diseases:

Human skin cells transformed directly into motor neurons
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/09/170907132836.htm


Scientists find another way to turn back the cellular clock:

Biologists slow aging, extend lifespan of fruit flies
'Cellular time machine' could eventually benefit humans, too
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/09/170906103421.htm


Immortality is on its way.

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It better hurry up cause I know plenty of old people will die who'd like to have it by then... Sad
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https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2017/sep/24/why-lack-of-sleep-health-worst-enemy-matthew-walker-why-we-sleep

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Yes. I give myself a non-negotiable eight-hour sleep opportunity every night, and I keep regular hours: if there is one thing I tell people, it’s to go to bed and to wake up at the same time every day, no matter what. I take my sleep incredibly seriously because I have seen the evidence. Once you know that after just one night of only four or five hours’ sleep, your natural killer cells – the ones that attack the cancer cells that appear in your body every day – drop by 70%, or that a lack of sleep is linked to cancer of the bowel, prostate and breast, or even just that the World Health Organisation has classed any form of night-time shift work as a probable carcinogen, how could you do anything else?”


wow, this is really piece of very important information,
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sleepsleep wrote:
wow, this is really piece of very important information,

Get some sleep; your "YouTube hours" are useless!

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Artificial Intelligence: the doctors Chinese patients can’t beat up
http://www.scmp.com/week-asia/business/article/2113455/artificial-intelligence-doctors-chinese-patients-cant-beat

great news, so this ai is basically in production now, happened in china, Smile

sooner or latter, every town will have one, every pharmacy probably have one too,
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sooner or latter, every town will have one, every pharmacy probably have one too,

Nope. According to Passengers (2016), 5000+ people will need to share one autodoc pod. And a couple of forum members do think that such a situation is okay or normal. Guess who?

Yeah, I have a long memory!

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5000+ human who were hibernated, , Wink
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sleepsleep wrote:
5000+ human who were hibernated, , Wink

According to the movie, the hibernated passengers wake up four months before arriving at the destination planet. And 1 autodoc pod can serve all of them during that period of time. Seems very reasonable!

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a single metro station serves millions too per day,

maybe only 1 percent of 5k need access to autodoc, maybe,
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https://www.sciencealert.com/a-nine-year-study-has-just-shown-how-sugar-exacerbates-cancer

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We know that almost all the cells in the human body require energy, and they derive this energy from the sugars in the food we eat. Cancer cells also require sugars to grow. But their glucose intake is a lot higher than that of healthy cells, as is the rate at which they ferment that glucose into lactic acid.

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https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2017/08/b12-energy/537654/?single_page=true

Vitamin B6 and B12 Supplements Appear to Cause Cancer in Men
A newly discovered risk associated with common energy and metabolism pills
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Good. Hope they become affordable within 5 years or so to delay aging until we discover true immortality. (or replace our bodies with artificial ones)
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Maybe they are correct?

https://phys.org/news/2017-10-mathematically-impossible-aging-scientists.html

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"Aging is mathematically inevitable - like, seriously inevitable. There's logically, theoretically, mathematically no way out," said Joanna Masel, professor of ecology and evolutionary biology and at the UA.


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"As you age, most of your cells are ratcheting down and losing function, and they stop growing, as well," said Nelson, lead author of the study. "But some of your cells are growing like crazy. What we show is that this forms a double bind - a catch-22. If you get rid of those poorly functioning, sluggish cells, then that allows cancer cells to proliferate, and if you get rid of, or slow down, those cancer cells, then that allows sluggish cells to accumulate. So you're stuck between allowing these sluggish cells to accumulate or allowing cancer cells to proliferate, and if you do one you can't do the other. You can't do them both at the same time."

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That's a load of nonsense, especially the "logically, theoretically, mathematically" part is beyond absurd. Where's the logic/math he touted? Mathematically and logically, there exists a set of atoms making up your entire body (minus brain) which can theoretically be restored exactly at any point in the future, or at least within the realm of Quantum probabilities. This is a fact. The only way it wouldn't be fact is if biology somehow makes use of special laws of physics or other such exceptional properties which is bullshit.

Cancer cells? Please. Hunt them down with nanobots or something. This guy is purely short-sighted on a "all natural" solution which is retarded. Who said immortality must be "natural" and why must "natural" things be a solution? What's this obsession with natural stuff, I don't get it. The reason we didn't evolve ability to be immortal is because biological processes are very inefficient and terrible overall. They're incapable to do it. Clearly, human technology is far superior, seeing as we've achieved immortality on our own data.

Yeah, things break over time, but nobody said you can't replace them with new ones. Ultimately, that's what immortality will be all about, just like "digital data" is immortal even if everything breaks eventually: ability to copy and restore it is what matters. Immortality might require periodic technological (not natural) maintenance. So what?

In fact, reproduction is just one example of such a process that "nature" has tried to reach immortality, but it is inefficient (no surprise). The difference between human technology (which is superior) and reproduction is that human technology preserves the data/memory, while reproduction only preserves some stupid instincts, not what matters (memories).
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They give no reason for why the cells slow down, just that they do slow down. And they give no reason for why such a slow down can't be reversed and simply accept that it can't be changed.

Also: The "job" of evolution is not to create immortality, because then that would make evolution stop. That would be self defeating. Evolution only "works" when old things die and newer, presumably better, things take over. How would we view Neanderthals today if they were all still living?
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