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finally, a great step towards humanity, =)
not sure about your budget, but best bet would be, exact model like those kernel developers use, and if you use porteus linux, you don't have to buy a "linux" laptop, you just need a pendrive, and use your "windows" laptop, boot usb, uefi if required, and you got linux that run from memory, yes, you could plug away the pendrive after linux copy those files completely into memory, imo, high screen resolution might be problem here, because cheap laptop usually came in 1366 x 768, Aspire E - Model Name: E5-575-33BM $349.99 https://www.acer.com/ac/en/US/content/model/NX.GG5AA.005 IdeaPad 510S (14") $549 http://www3.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/ideapad/ideapad-500-series/Lenovo-IdeaPad-510S-14ISK/p/88IP50S0711 Inspiron 13 5000 2-in-1 $529 http://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/productdetails/inspiron-13-5368-2-in-1-laptop idk if all above laptops will run flawlessly with linux, (because it depends also on what distro you intend to use) you might need to enable javascript to view above manufacturers' website, you could also go to amazon, sort traditional laptop by price, set dsiplay resolution to 1920 x 1080, wifi realtek, atheros, ralink are preferred, ![]() more offer here, http://www.gearbest.com/laptops-c_11964/ Jumper EZBOOK 3 Notebook ![]() ![]() |
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sleepsleep wrote: and if you use porteus linux, you don't have to buy a "linux" laptop, you just need a pendrive, and use your "windows" laptop, boot usb, uefi if required, and you got linux that run from memory, yes, you could plug away the pendrive after linux copy those files completely into memory, sleepsleep wrote: idk if all above laptops will run flawlessly with linux, sleepsleep wrote: (because it depends also on what distro you intend to use) sleepsleep wrote: you could also go to amazon, sort traditional laptop by price, set dsiplay resolution to 1920 x 1080, |
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Or will I just be forced to pay the large marked up prices to get a properly working version of "free" Linux?
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revolution wrote:
what is your current hardware? revolution wrote:
you probably need to join some linux group, revolution wrote:
i run porteus for years now, using 3.2 now, eventually my goal is to build my own distro, or i might go with bsd (free/open/net) idk your expectation about learning / using linux, i am very sure, every distro will give you some sort of issues / problems, and solving them equal part of learning process, |
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revolution wrote: Or will I just be forced to pay the large marked up prices to get a properly working version of "free" Linux? i tried porteus linux on most of the laptop / desktop i repair, i dare to say, 95% of those could boot without any issues, if properly working equal - working ethernet, - working wireless, - working video, then 95% laptops available on market should be no issue, |
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revolution wrote:
Hey, 300+ active Linux distributions can't all be wrong. ![]() revolution wrote:
Um, half-serious, the "Free" means "freedom", not necessarily zero cost. So yeah, paying somebody for support (Red Hat?) might make sense if your needs are that dire. revolution wrote:
I don't understand the urgency if you're just going to be forced to use Windows anyways. Everyone else does, so it's a safe bet. The world would practically end if all (modern) Windows stopped working. It's that crucial to many peoples' work. So I wouldn't worry too much. However, that doesn't mean everything is perfect for every use case, but neither is Linux (obviously). Linux is great and does a lot, but even they can't do literally everything. Try and see, but it's not realistic to get your hopes up insanely high. But most things do work (after many years of effort)! You might have best luck, as mentioned, by installing a common distro to a "pendrive" and live booting that on any potential purchase hardware as a test. If it works (in obviously simple scenarios, e.g. networking), then you're probably okay. I'm no guru, by far, but here's a few simple links: |
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rugxulo wrote: I don't understand the urgency ... rugxulo wrote: ... but it's not realistic to get your hopes up insanely high. rugxulo wrote: But most things do work (after many years of effort)! rugxulo wrote: You might have best luck, as mentioned, by installing a common distro to a "pendrive" and live booting that on any potential purchase hardware as a test. If it works (in obviously simple scenarios, e.g. networking), then you're probably okay. What I'm really looking for is something that "just works". Buy a system, install Linux and we're done. Is that possible? If so, then what? Currently my options are the more expensive pre-installed systems. Yes, I could do that but they are small companies and support is not going to be exactly wonderful. So I am trying to explore alternative options at the moment. It is not urgent, I can wait. But in the long term I want to do this eventually to get away from the corporate spying and monitoring that comes with Windows. My current system can't run Linux correctly from any live distro I've tried. I always get a lower display resolution that is in a distorted aspect ratio, the trackpad is extraordinarily sensitive and impossible to get accurate positioning, and the fan is stuck at one speed. I've given up trying new distros now, it was just a waste of my time. |
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sleepsleep wrote:
get this then, https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxhardware/comments/5kbh9z/acer_aspire_e_15_how_is_the_linux_support/ https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxquestions/comments/5c1b4p/is_the_acer_aspire_e15_e557533bm_compatible_with/dg4lulg/ http://veino.com/blog/?p=1303 http://www.laptopforprogramming.com/best-cheap-laptop-for-linux/ please update laptop bios, use recent kernel version, |
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sleepsleep: Those laptops are too heavy. My non-negotiable criterion for weight is 1.6kg max (see the first post). This pretty much excludes all 15 inch systems. I have to carry this thing all over the planet, it can't be too heavy or too flimsy.
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revolution wrote:
Have you tried submitting bug report either to the distro developers, or Linux kernel developers themselves? Without knowing what your system is, it's like a blind guess... |
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revolution wrote: I have a few non-negotiable criteria: removable battery with standard cell sizes (18650 cells are probably the best here), high resolution screen (2k or higher), lightweight (no more than 1.6kg), spinning HDD (no tiny SSDs). "sufficient" RAM (at least 4GB). Maybe you should just stick to your notebook bought in 2003 -- it still works, I believe. ![]() |
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Like I mentioned in the first post, systems that meet my hardware criteria are plentiful and easy to find (but they come with Windows of course). The hard part, and the part I want to solve, is finding a combination of the hardware and Linux software that work with each other.
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YONG wrote: Maybe you should just stick to your notebook bought in 2003 -- it still works, I believe. |
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TmX wrote: Have you tried submitting bug report either to the distro developers, or Linux kernel developers themselves? |
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revolution wrote: The hard part, and the part I want to solve, is finding a combination of the hardware and Linux software that work with each other. ![]() |
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YONG wrote: If you are willing to let go of your fixations (removable battery & spinning HDD) ... |
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revolution wrote: No, sorry, non-negotiable. revolution wrote: I want something that will last, not a throwaway toy with the SSD and battery failing after a year or so ... ![]() |
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I like Debian and recommend you to use it. I feel good about this system
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kerr wrote: I like Debian and recommend you to use it. I feel good about this system ... a few non-negotiable criteria: removable battery with standard cell sizes (18650 cells are probably the best here), high resolution screen (2k or higher), lightweight (no more than 1.6kg), spinning HDD (no tiny SSDs). "sufficient" RAM (at least 4GB). Yeah, he/she is quite picky. ![]() |
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