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one question, could we recreate clouds, raining inside vacuum chamber? and thunder?

02 Nov 2016, 00:22

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sleepsleep wrote:

but if you use very thick balloon, the balloon will fall to the bottom

Yes.

sleepsleep wrote:

and if you use very thick and light balloon material, the balloon will rise to the top of the chamber

No. There is nothing that could make it rise. Gravity will pull it down. Helium balloons only rise because they are lighter than air, so if you have no air they will fall down like everything else. If you had a boat in the water and drain the water do you still expect the boat to stay where it was, or would it fall down?

02 Nov 2016, 00:44

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sleepsleep wrote:

one question, could we recreate clouds, raining inside vacuum chamber? and thunder?

No. Clouds come from moisture in the air, and since a vacuum chamber has no air or moisture then you can't have any clouds.

02 Nov 2016, 00:45

so what separate air and vacuum around earth? we don't see any chamber around earth

we knew air become less and less if you go higher, like hiking mountain and etc

02 Nov 2016, 01:04

ford

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so what separate air and vacuum around earth? we don't see any chamber around earth

What are you asking? The Earth creates a gravity well which holds gasses to it, and the vacuum is space time through which all moves. There is nothing separating the vacuum and air. Maybe I am misunderstanding your question?

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02 Nov 2016, 01:55

Trinitek

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sleepsleep wrote:

so what separate air and vacuum around earth? we don't see any chamber around earth

we knew air become less and less if you go higher, like hiking mountain and etc

A planet's gravitational pull becomes weaker as the distance from the center of the planet increases. Ergo, there are more air particles closer to the surface than at the top of a mountain because the gravitational pull is greater.

02 Nov 2016, 01:56

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Trinitek wrote:

A planet's gravitational pull becomes weaker as the distance from the center of the planet increases. Ergo, there are more air particles closer to the surface than at the top of a mountain because the gravitational pull is greater.

That is true, but it is only a very small part of the reason why the air get thinner as you go higher. Even when you are officially into space at >100km the Earth's gravity is still quite appreciable.

02 Nov 2016, 03:32

since earth is a spinning ball, gravity pulling earth and all the air around us, moving and spinning fast?

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1,040 mph

1040 mph == 1673.718 kmh
An object on the Earth's equator travels once around the Earth's circumference. This is about 24,901 miles (40,075 kilometres) per day. To calculate speed, Mr Kadish divided that distance by 23hr, 56m, 4s to reach the figure of 1,040 mph.

commercial airline speed

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500 knots
This altitude is usually where the higher ground speeds, the increase in aerodynamic drag power, and the decrease in engine thrust and efficiency at higher altitudes are balanced. Typical cruising air speed for long-distance commercial passenger flights is 475–500 knots (878–926 km/h; 546–575 mph).

02 Nov 2016, 10:02

Unedited NASA footage of "moon landing" - You still don't believe in a flat earth?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdFqK1wTx0A

same cloud from nasa,
raw nasa footage how they fake earth, all composite images,

12 Dec 2016, 00:15

ford

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> You still don't believe in a flat earth?

I have been in jets that took me high enough that I could actually see the curvature of the Earth without any issue. Also, if the Earth were not round, I would not see more of the Earth on a mountain top as compared to on a "flat" plain. If the Earth were not round, I would not observe a ship disappearing from the bottom to the top when sailing into the ocean. There are sooooo many reasons that I think the Earth to be a ball. Sorry there sleepsleep. The Earth is a big wet ball of dirt that circles a very large and unshielded nuclear fusion reactor.

22 Dec 2016, 04:43

glad you have such experiences and opportunity to fly high above cloud and probably very high up,

- i think one could still see "more" on top of mountain in flat model,

- they covered about the ships and how they should not be visible anymore under curvature calculation, but yet, visible through high zoom-able camera

some agencies spent billions / trillions, and they justify those collected information for themselves, not to everybody, every country or nation, just them,

i saw such behaviours in small companies, medium companies, and i trust, it works the same in big, huge, nation budgets companies,

23 Dec 2016, 10:33

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Let's assume for the moment that the Earth is flat, and explore what we would expect to see and experience.

1. There would be a edge of some sort. People that walk/swim/drive/sail/fly continuously in one direction must eventually encounter the edge.
2. Something must stop the atmosphere from leaking over the edge. What is it? A 100km high wall? Some invisible force field?
3. People in all places on the planet would see the Sun rise and set at the same time, so no need for time zones.
4. The seasons would be the same for everyone everywhere, including the Arctic and the Antarctic. All parts of the Earth would have the same length of day as all other parts.
5. The underside/inside of the Earth has a large reservoir of lava/magma so the other side must be very hot. Or alternatively, the other side has some covering over the magma that insulates it from losing heat. Either way there must be at least one other side.

Anyone have more?

23 Dec 2016, 12:21

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revolution wrote:

Let's assume for the moment that the Earth is flat, and explore what we would expect to see and experience.

That is an indisputable fact. Refer to:

Gods of Egypt Reveals Earth is Flat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zefNUz8Icmg&t=1m47s

Wink

24 Dec 2016, 05:07

ford

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revolution wrote:

Let's assume for the moment that the Earth is flat, and explore what we would expect to see and experience.

1. There would be a edge of some sort. People that walk/swim/drive/sail/fly continuously in one direction must eventually encounter the edge.
2. Something must stop the atmosphere from leaking over the edge. What is it? A 100km high wall? Some invisible force field?
3. People in all places on the planet would see the Sun rise and set at the same time, so no need for time zones.
4. The seasons would be the same for everyone everywhere, including the Arctic and the Antarctic. All parts of the Earth would have the same length of day as all other parts.
5. The underside/inside of the Earth has a large reservoir of lava/magma so the other side must be very hot. Or alternatively, the other side has some covering over the magma that insulates it from losing heat. Either way there must be at least one other side.

Anyone have more?

6. Coriolis effect wouldn't happen because the planet wouldn't be a spinning ball, so toilet water wouldn't swirl. Eddie currents wouldn't swirl. Etc...

7. The Northern and Southern hemispheres would have the same constellations.

8. The Aurora Australis and Aurora Borealis would effect the entire globe at night, not just the poles.

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27 Dec 2016, 17:28

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ford wrote:

... toilet water wouldn't swirl ...

A common misconception this one. Coriolis effects are far too tiny to show any effect with things like toilets even in laboratory tests. But, yes, for larger bodies, like the atmosphere of the Earth, those effects would disappear.

28 Dec 2016, 02:05

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9. The two tallest buildings in the world would always be able to "see" each other, whether by radio, or laser, or whatever. There would always be a direct line-of-sight between them.

28 Dec 2016, 03:05

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maybe it's time to build a diy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weather_balloon and then, definitivelly delete this kind of doubts.

i think we can extrapolate and claim: "nothing is real".

give me one proof that "it's real".
only one.

28 Dec 2016, 18:52

edfed

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i have a theaory... and if the universe don't expand, the distances don't increase, in fact, only the size of particles decrease.

28 Dec 2016, 18:57

edfed wrote:

maybe it's time to build a diy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weather_balloon and then, definitivelly delete this kind of doubts.

i think we can extrapolate and claim: "nothing is real".

give me one proof that "it's real".
only one.

Night weather balloon proves a flat earth.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iheoMfRxVBo

with stars, now why nasa pictures got no stars Smile

29 Dec 2016, 01:29

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edfed wrote:

maybe it's time to build a diy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weather_balloon and then, definitivelly delete this kind of doubts.

Nice idea, but of course it doesn't work. Even if you take disbelievers up in a spacecraft and orbit a few times, they'll still say it is a trick and you are using mirrors or something to fool them.

29 Dec 2016, 01:32

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